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intercepting BMs, which is already hard given that Tayfun is pretty fast and can move (not much as HGVs but still)what dreams ?
Kargı and Akbaba will just make things harder
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intercepting BMs, which is already hard given that Tayfun is pretty fast and can move (not much as HGVs but still)what dreams ?
Dreams of being able to block SRBMswhat dreams ?
intercepting BMs, which is already hard given that Tayfun is pretty fast and can move (not much as HGVs but still)
Kargı and Akbaba will just make things harder
If it is the case then you will just end up in point A.Dreams of being able to block SRBMs
If it is the case then you will just end up in point A.
I mean, if you need to clear the way for missiles by DEAD first, than it is long and costly process. TURAF fighters will need to achieve the air superiority first in order to carry out DEAD.
And after that, it will carry out suppression of enemy air defense systems with AKBABA and other weapons.
How you gonna distract them?Not always
You will use those to distract SAMs, not completely destroy them.
No AD system have 100% success rate against BMs and Tayfun being able to manuever and being fast reduces the chances of AD systems intercepting it.
Kargı and Akbaba just adds more complexity for enemy
We dont have only Tayfun. We can use drone as a decoy and other missile like Yıldırım , Bora,. So if u dont produce ur system u cant use indefinitly. U can lock 24 target but u cant fire 24 missile if u dont haveHow you gonna distract them? The very Morden ADs can engage up to 24 target simultaneously.
you need to physically neutralized the radar completely.
But Yes, I agree no AD is 100% succsessful.
Even though they can engage to multiple targets, launchers don't have that much.How you gonna distract them?
Some of the latest Morden ADs can engage up to 24 target simultaneously.
you need to physically neutralized the radar completely with bunch of akbaba and decoys and ew supression.
But Yes, I agree no AD is 100% succsessful.
Depends what you want to use them for.Just want to ask a question though
Are quasi-ballistic missiles better than normal ballistic missiles?
Those billions will come from EU or America. Don't forget that they have deleted 200 billion EUR of greece debt. Greece just received 35 bn EUR as part of Covid relief. It is a fallacy to look at greece finances alone. We need to test these things as secretly as possible, unless we are confident we are close to US or Israeli technology and produced them in sufficient quantity. In that case even the big brothers will realize it is becoming too expensive to protect their spoiled protege.It isn’t totally rubbish!
1. Almost all missiles are intercept-able.
2. Don’t believe everything Russians claim about Iskander. Yes it is 90cm diameter 4 ton missile. But it’s hypersonic speed hype is a bit far fetched.
3. Barak 8 is a very modern and specially designed missile, with dual pulse motor, as an anti ballistic missile , especially against tactical ballistic missiles with a range of 500km. It has TVC high degree of manoeuvrability at interception stage with the help of an Aesa radar.
4. In Karabakh Iskander missiles Armenia had were export versions. Armenians did not really know fully how to operate them.
5. Ukraine did not have much of an answer to Iskander missiles.
6. In any conflict the trick lies in how well you can suppress and/or take out of equation your enemy’s AD radar systems.
Tayfun will be a formidable missile and very hard to intercept. It will push the Greeks to spend billions on new AD systems.
Now that I found someone from Israel, I allow myself an off-topic question. Why on earth are you waiting for Iran to develop a nuke? With all the absolute air superiority, missiles, and AD systems. Sometimes I cannot help but think you are hidden allies with those mullahs!?@Radonsider
it seems that the turks are testing their own LORA.
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The leading Greek newspaper Kathimerini carried TAYFUN to its headline today:
"Double threat from Ankara! A ballistic missile test was added to the Turkish threats. TAYFUN traveled about 560 km before finding its target on the coast of Sinop. Kalın also threatened Greece!
The successful test of a short-range surface-to-surface ballistic missile called "Tayfun" at the shooting range in the Black Sea is the latest example of the weapon systems completed and put into use by the Turkish Armed Forces by the Turkish "Roketsan" industry.
Such a missile is a clear threat to the infrastructure of the Greek Armed Forces, since almost our entire country is within this range. "Tayfun" is the 3rd missile system in the series produced by Roketsan. In recent years, the medium-range "Bora" (280 km) has already been used in northern Syria.
While the Turks were conducting a ballistic missile test, the Turkish Presidency spokesman Kalin demanded the withdrawal of all military forces in the Eastern Aegean islands, insisting on threats against Greece, arguing that otherwise there would be consequences.
Mr. Kalın imposes the complete disarmament of the Greek islands as a precondition for de-escalation. "The source of tension is the Greek side, which should take measures to reduce tension. Let's start with the withdrawal of weapons, equipment, troops, etc.," he said.
via hermes_z
How you gonna distract them?
Some of the latest Morden ADs can engage up to 24 target simultaneously.
you need to physically neutralized the radar completely with the combination of akbaba, glide bombs and EW suppression.
But Yes, I agree no AD is 100% succsessful.
I think total collapse of Iran is a must both for Israel (if they sincerely see them as threat) and Türkiye. The total military apparatus of Iran should be destroyed. Unfortunately US is after foolish games and does not see the need for israeli Türkiye cooperation in this.@Altay2071
Absolute air superiority won't mean much, given iran is thousand km away from Israel.
Without massive air refueling israel won't be able to dominate the Iranian airspace.
And what do you specifically suggesting?
An Israeli air strike won't set back iran's nuclear program more than 1/2 years.
for a relatively succsessful air strike, USAF's heavy bombers will definitely need to be involved in the operation.
Last but not the least, let's not wish for another conflict in the middle east.
You mean the collapse of the current rulers?I think total collapse of Iran is a must both for Israel (if they sincerely see them as threat) and Türkiye. The total military apparatus of Iran should be destroyed. Unfortunately US is after foolish games and does not see the need for israeli Türkiye cooperation in this.
I mean the collapse of all military apparatus. Once the missile launchers are taken out, Iran is without protection. One then needs to bomb 6 months so that they wont be ever able to treat even Katar.You mean the collapse of the current rulers?
Because if the country itself collapse, then there will be another refugee crisis in the middle east.