TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[RadarGudumluMuhimmat]

I hope they don't bother with developing a new architecture and are directly integrated into the Hisar system. Everything that exists in NASAMS is readily available in the Hisar system.

 

[Huelague]

Interesting that no one asked @Combat-Master about a proof or source about his Gezgin claim.

 

[Merzifonlu]

Interesting that no one asked @Combat-Master about a proof or source about his Gezgin claim.

Why would they ask? There are two possibilities. a) The information is correct, in which case he will not reveal its source anyway. b) Or the source of information is his own ass, in which case he cannot reveal the source again.

 

[Nutuk]

I doubt that Gezgin is in inventory while the engine is still in development or they've used a suitable Ukrainian engine, but than again it should be in tests

 

[Huelague]

Why would they ask? There are two possibilities. a) The information is correct, in which case he will not reveal its source anyway. b) Or the source of information is his own ass, in which case he cannot reveal the source again.

If I would claim, Bora-3 is in inventory, would you ask a source? But the question is, why nobody asked for evidence, not how would combat master respond.

 

[Huelague]

I doubt that Gezgin is in inventory while the engine is still in development or they've used a suitable Ukrainian engine, but than again it should be in tests

Gezgin project starts before Siper project, and if even Siper is in trial test, why should Gezgin not be ready.

 

[Heartbang]

Interesting that no one asked @Combat-Master about a proof or source about his Gezgin claim.

i agree. @Combat-Master should clarify.

 

[Agha Sher]

Interesting that no one asked @Combat-Master about a proof or source about his Gezgin claim.

I didn’t take the statement seriously. Officially it is in development. Maybe it is in inventory but that would be a state secret and he wouldn’t know

 

[Yasar_TR]

Gezgin is already in inventory.

Bro! For such an important statement wouldn’t it be apt to paste some kind of Source and/or explanation?

 

[Zafer]

@Combat-Master clarifies the situation John Wick style, this means bloodbath. I am out of here.

 

[Afif]

Bora 2 is definitely there somewhere as mentioned by one of the ministers around 4 years ago. But it is a strategic tactical weapon.
It is a game changer weapon. It is a weapon you do not advertise too much about.
If one has to speculate, it must be around 500km range missile with at least 500kg of explosives that can hit moving targets with precision. That is if they have not altered the size too much. Otherwise if the size has been altered, there is nothing stopping it from being a 3-4 ton 600+km tactical missile. Especially after Roketsan started using composite materials for their missiles and improved their missile fuels etc.

‘Bora 2’ seçimi bile unutturur’

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www.milliyet.com.tr

Hopefully bora ii will be something similar to iskander-m.
Here is an interesting reading. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...AQFnoECCgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3A7d94w8We6Oy7W6Xtdts0
and here is an interesting analysis.

It seems that a maneuverable quasi balisitc missile is a better choice than a hypersonic glide vehicle ( within a strike range of 1000km ) in term of technical specifications ( like superior manuverbilty and having a seeker head for much effective terminal guidance ) and cost effectiveness.

 

[Nutuk]

Gezgin project starts before Siper project, and if even Siper is in trial test, why should Gezgin not be ready.

Because her engine is still under development.

One way would be to use Ukrainian engines or Czech micro turbojet to have prototypes or limited initial production

 

[Yasar_TR]

Hopefully bora ii will be something similar to iskander-m.
Here is an interesting reading. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...AQFnoECCgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3A7d94w8We6Oy7W6Xtdts0
and here is an interesting analysis.

It seems that a maneuverable quasi balisitc missile is a better choice than a hypersonic glide vehicle ( within a strike range of 1000km ) in term of technical specifications ( like superior manuverbilty and having a seeker head for much effective terminal guidance ) and cost effectiveness.

Iskander-M missile is great on paper. Russians may have blown it out of proportion a bit though. They say it is a hypersonic missile. But it is hypersonic only for a while, depending on how aerodynamic and heavy it is at terminal phase. We saw how well they hit their targets. Albeit an export version, in Azerbaijan they were intercepted and eliminated by Barak-8 missiles. A good many numbers of it were intercepted by Ukrainian Air Defence systems too.
On paper all credentials check out and tick all the relevant boxes. But in reality they have not performed as well as what it has promised to do. Nevertheless, in theory, a missile like Iskander-M is a formidable weapon to have.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Bora-2 is similar in it’s performance and even better in terms of it’s guidance and precision.

 

[Baryshx]

Because her engine is still under development.

One way would be to use Ukrainian engines or Czech micro turbojet to have prototypes or limited initial production

I was going to write that too, I totally agree. Kale Arge has just started making its engine, our Gezgin may be finished, but Kale Arge is waiting for its engine. Sure, it could have been produced in certain numbers with Ukrainian engines at hand.

 

[Baris]

I was going to write that too, I totally agree. Kale Arge has just started making its engine, our Gezgin may be finished, but Kale Arge is waiting for its engine. Sure, it could have been produced in certain numbers with Ukrainian engines at hand.

According to Anıl Şahin, Ukrainian engine was never considered.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1565683586002522112

 

[NitricAcid]

Gürcan Okumuş, Director of TÜBİTAK SAGE Institute:

1. “The development work of GÖKTUĞ missiles has come to an end and mass production preparations continue. We will continue our journey in air-to-air missiles with a ramjet-propelled missile. As of today, it is obvious that we are as far as an engine from a ramjet-propelled missile.

2. “The SOM-J missile has been subjected to very demanding flight and firing tests, and it has done us proud by successfully fulfilling the mission defined in all of these tests. In 2023, we will conduct shooting tests to verify network-supported ammunition and surface engagement capabilities.”

3. “Development studies for SOM-C1/SOM-C2 missiles with KEMENT national data link continue. It is aimed to make significant progress in qualification activities by the end of 2022 and to complete the verification activities with firing tests in 2023.”

4. “SOM-C1/SOM-C2 supplies are contractually bound. SOM-C1/SOM-C2 missiles have been developed to be used against surface targets in addition to land targets, and have a low surface flight feature called "Sea Skimming".

5. “By replacing the engine of the GÖKDOĞAN Missile with a larger engine, we can establish a NASAMS-like structure with a domestic solution like ESSM. The engine preliminary design activities for the G-40 have been completed, but the testing phase has not been started since there was no request from the requirements authorities.

6. “A low smoke solid fuel rocket engine was developed by TÜBİTAK SAGE as a launch engine within the scope of the KARGI Project and 10 live rocket engines were delivered to LENTATEK Company.”

7. “Verification activities for KUZGUN Modular Joint Munitions Family, Free Floating (SS), Solid Fuel (KY) and Turbojet Engine (TJ) variants continue. KUZGUN-SS platform integration work has been going on for a few months and the integration work has come to an end.”


Source :

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1566762282662694913

 

[Baryshx]

According to Anıl Şahin, Ukrainian engine was never considered.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1565683586002522112

Then someone is too witty or hiding the truth.

 

[Altay_TR]

Kargı with E/O IR camera on ADEX 2022 Azerbaijan

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1567102749837238272

 

[Anmdt]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fb-Sm-cX0AgSfHi?format=jpg&name=large

Ok, so passive RF seeker version of MAM-C ? It has got '001' number tag. If this gets a RF seeker so can the Cirit missile, a new nightmare for pantsir

What does DCF might be standing for? DC Fuzesi (missile) or in english like 'Directed --- ---'

 

[Yasar_TR]

Roketsan'ın Topçu Mühimmatları Polonya Yolcusu

Polonya, Roketsan üretimi topçu mühimmatlarına yoğun ilgi gösteriyor. Roketsan ile Polonya Savunma Bakanlığı arasında teknik iş birliği anlaşması imzalandı.

www.savunmasanayist.com

Roketsan has signed a technical cooperation agreement with the MOD of Poland for the guided artillery rocket systems of Turkey.
This means there is an export opportunity of these artillery rockets to Poland in one form or another.
I guess if US HIMARS is difficult to attain and overpriced, and they have proved themselves as vital in the battlefield, why not go for the next best thing?