TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

BalkanTurk90

Contributor
Messages
658
Reactions
5 1,028
Nation of residence
Albania
Nation of origin
Turkey
Even if Turkey becomes a top 3 superpower and a joint Turkic military is established, I still don't think Turkey would leave NATO.

The US is nervous about rising Turkish military power, but at the same time it needs Turkey in the alliance. The truth is that the longer Turkey is in NATO the more important and powerful it becomes in the alliance. Eventually it will play a leading role if it plays its cards right. That means Turkey will have a lot of leverage in Europe.

Back to the topic of missiles, I think Turkey isn't far from making ICBMs. Not that it matters too much, they're just for mutually assured destruction... I'm more interested on the shorter range solutions which can be used in realistic scenarios.

Gezgin in particular is one I'm excited for. I'm also wondering if Cenk/Tayfun or their derivatives will be capable of striking ships? Assuming that they could, the damage from one of these strikes would render an aircraft carrier useless. Saturating the air defences would be the hard part.
With modern tech , SAMs can make BM useless but what Turkiye should do is equip BM at least modern ones like CENK & tayfun with chafs like fighter aircrafts or just like Russia did and increase success to bypass enemy SAMs . But until now no news about Turkiye BM anti SAMs capability
 

Yasar_TR

Experienced member
Staff member
Administrator
Messages
3,247
Reactions
141 16,269
Nation of residence
United Kingdom
Nation of origin
Turkey
Anka-3 and KE are quite different aircrafts.

Anka-3 is subsonic. Being a flying wing, it can not go supersonic. But due to its airframe design, it is theoretically a true Low Observable plane. It should have a very low RCS value, especially when married with TF6000 engine. It will have 2 internal weapons bays, each able to house bombs and munition up to 635kg. This is a true deep strike weapon that will perform SEAD/DEAD missions as well as ISR and EW.

Where as KE is a supersonic air interceptor plane, it can carry out bombing missions as well. But it will probably do this from a somehow, stand off distance. It‘s canard design, detracts a little from the total low observable form. Nevertheless it should have a much better RCS than any 4.5 generation fighter jet, especially with RAM paint applied. A canard design is also known to provide good supersonic flight and excellent supersonic and transonic turn performance, and improved short-field landing performance compared to the conventional delta-wing design. So KE should lend itself very well as a carrier operated aircraft in the future.
 

Strong AI

Contributor
Messages
1,038
Reactions
35 4,216
Nation of residence
Germany
Nation of origin
Turkey
The foldable fin of GÖKSUR was tested in the Ankara Wind Tunnel.

1722961728387.png


An important test phase related to ASELSAN's Autonomous Close-Range Air Defense Missile System, named GÖKSUR, was carried out in the Ankara Wind Tunnel.

Currently developed by ASELSAN for ship platforms, GÖKSUR will provide air defense using TÜBİTAK SAGE’s BOZDOĞAN-DH missile.

Tested in the Ankara Wind Tunnel

The foldable fin within-visual-range missile model developed under the project was tested at 0.2 Mach speed with different angles of attack, yaw, elevator, aileron, and rudder using the model movement system and a 6-component internal balance in the Ankara Wind Tunnel.

According to information shared by the TÜBİTAK SAGE team, four pressure measurements were taken from the cavity behind the model to perform axial force correction caused by the holding arm.

The scans were conducted continuously as angle of attack scans and yaw angle scans. Measurements were completed in 13 out of a total of 361 scan tests. A total of 15 different control surface angles were used in the tests.

1722961752642.png


First exhibited at IDEF’23

Specially developed for naval platforms, GÖKSUR was first exhibited at IDEF'23 held last year. The system was specifically designed for naval platforms.

The system uses the BOZDOĞAN-DH missile, developed by TÜBİTAK-SAGE and updated according to the air defense needs of naval platforms, as the interceptor missile. The GÖKSUR Close-Range Air Defense Missile System is being developed within a product family concept and offers a solution with three different configurations based on a modular design approach.

The GÖKSUR Close-Range Air Defense Missile System features 360-degree threat elimination capability, new generation IIR seeker guided missile, multiple target interception capability, ability to operate independently and/or integrated with a platform, mid-course guidance with data link, and high single-shot interception probability.

1722961775454.png


Equivalent to RAM

The system, which will be equivalent to the US-produced RAM System, has the primary task of destroying anti-ship missiles targeting naval platforms in the air. The Turkish Navy has long faced an embargo on the supply of munitions for the US-produced RAM System installed on the MİLGEM ADA Class Corvettes in its inventory.

Roketsan is also conducting studies on the subject within the scope of the LEVENT Project.

 
Last edited:

UkroTurk

Experienced member
Land Warfare Specialist
Professional
Messages
2,684
Reactions
55 4,801
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
The foldable fin of GÖKSUR was tested in the Ankara Wind Tunnel.

An important test phase related to ASELSAN's Autonomous Close-Range Air Defense Missile System, named GÖKSUR, was carried out in the Ankara Wind Tunnel.

Currently developed by ASELSAN for ship platforms, GÖKSUR will provide air defense using TÜBİTAK SAGE’s BOZDOĞAN-DH missile.

Tested in the Ankara Wind Tunnel

The foldable fin within-visual-range missile model developed under the project was tested at 0.2 Mach speed with different angles of attack, yaw, elevator, aileron, and rudder using the model movement system and a 6-component internal balance in the Ankara Wind Tunnel.

According to information shared by the TÜBİTAK SAGE team, four pressure measurements were taken from the cavity behind the model to perform axial force correction caused by the holding arm.

The scans were conducted continuously as angle of attack scans and yaw angle scans. Measurements were completed in 13 out of a total of 361 scan tests. A total of 15 different control surface angles were used in the tests.

First exhibited at IDEF’23

Specially developed for naval platforms, GÖKSUR was first exhibited at IDEF'23 held last year. The system was specifically designed for naval platforms.

The system uses the BOZDOĞAN-DH missile, developed by TÜBİTAK-SAGE and updated according to the air defense needs of naval platforms, as the interceptor missile. The GÖKSUR Close-Range Air Defense Missile System is being developed within a product family concept and offers a solution with three different configurations based on a modular design approach.

The GÖKSUR Close-Range Air Defense Missile System features 360-degree threat elimination capability, new generation IIR seeker guided missile, multiple target interception capability, ability to operate independently and/or integrated with a platform, mid-course guidance with data link, and high single-shot interception probability.

Equivalent to RAM

The system, which will be equivalent to the US-produced RAM System, has the primary task of destroying anti-ship missiles targeting naval platforms in the air. The Turkish Navy has long faced an embargo on the supply of munitions for the US-produced RAM System installed on the MİLGEM ADA Class Corvettes in its inventory.

Roketsan is also conducting studies on the subject within the scope of the LEVENT Project.

Up up up
 

Quasar

Contributor
The Post Deleter
Messages
734
Reactions
51 3,280
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey

Afif

Experienced member
Moderator
Bangladesh Correspondent
DefenceHub Diplomat
Bangladesh Moderator
Messages
4,749
Reactions
94 9,071
Nation of residence
Bangladesh
Nation of origin
Bangladesh

Quasar

Contributor
The Post Deleter
Messages
734
Reactions
51 3,280
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
IMO, this is better than Roketsan Sungur RF.
Levent missile seems to be our first missile with 8 forward canards (Turkish Python 5) :devilish:

-more lift upfront

- easier to adjust the angle of attack - high pitch authority- in short most probably our most agile missile so far

-purely speculative but who knows we may be looking at a near future Air to Air missile design as well ???
in a way I agree and seems that Bozdoğan DH may one step ahead?... yet eventhough I may ask for too much I hope both missiles find their places by time, in any case studies on Levent missile is a worthy attempt and definitly important as well IMO
 

Saithan

Experienced member
Denmark Correspondent
Messages
8,632
Reactions
37 19,741
Nation of residence
Denmark
Nation of origin
Turkey
Wouldn't they each have their own functions depending on operational range/engagement range?

I mean you'd launch this first, and have Sungur 12xcannister launcher ready to spray and pray. along with Phallanx or 35mm
 

Follow us on social media

Top Bottom