I saw it too this morning and thought we’re not going to here anymore about it.
No bro, he is either mistaken few things as "construction" or typed "design" as "construction. TTHB is awaiting approval to pass onto 3rd phase, construction-detail design. At the best chance, steel cutting will be held only for ceremonial purposes by end of the year.
MPAC's architecture is being adopted for TTHB, it was as such in the latest iteration that is used in contract design phase (ongoing stage of the design). However SSIK will be resolution for all the mistery, i presume. For now the foreseen unit cost has reached $150mil and even passed it.
With so many designs aren’t there any design approved by TN. If we keep changing design to changing threat then we will have to ask our adversaries to take a break so we can start building something.
There is nothing wrong about the designs, FAC-55 was merely done without TN's involvement by consideration of operational requirements by STM, a good design but limited space focusing on oldschool but true FAC tactics. Then TTHB was done (design is clear and available, just not to public) by involvement of the TN to adopt modern warfare techniques (better sensors, EA - ED, etc and more space for additional items). Then, STM has generated an spinoff design MPAC, sharing the similar architecture with TTHB but streamlined and customized in sensors and equipments for export market.
I was expecting June - July, months of delay is not really good for some projects awaiting the approval.
Don’t know if I should laugh or cry…
It is good to have all of these. But they are on the paper mostly. We are late. We need to produce quickly and see them in sufficient quantities on the sea and in the air. I hear for example Marlin being praised a lot. Just arm it appropriately with Orca and Kuzgun or small Atmaca and produce 30 of them. But even the latter are still on the paper, whereas the enemy does not wait. We need to get going.
it won't damage the economy, at all
I would disagree with EU, their systems are mostly made with US influence, self sustainability here is much higher here I would say@Altay2071 @BalkanTurk90
I hear you guys. In fact, loud and clear
Yes, I wish we had done things earlier and faster but I am personally at a point to appreciate what Turkish industry has achieved within this time frame. There’s only so much can be done.
The truth is we started our own damn defense industry from scratch (with the exception of Aselsan, MKEK, and Tusas. Please don’t kill me) and worked to establish an efficient and hopefully sufficient industry with enough know how and technological output so that every other component supplement and feed each other.
In other word, we created our own independent and self sustaining defense ecosystem. Obviously, not level with the US or major EU countries and maybe never will be but it’s there now and as long as we don’t screw it up and keep enhancing and coordinating it, it will only grow stronger.
In conclusion, as much as I agree with you on every single fact you put forth, I’m also inclined to believe that only this much could be done at this particular time.
Influence, you are right. The US is still the most influential military technology producer in the world. The only exception of course, as usual, is Israel. And keep China out as they are totally different story
I appreciate of course what has all been achieved recently. I don’t think we are doing enough sacrifice currently as a nation. We should currently allocate at least 5% of our GDP for Defence, preferably more. We are allocating 2% currently. If you say there are indirect investments going on, I would still say add %3 more. At this point none of our people need iPhones or bmw. I am talking from a war economy almost. We are still very bad in terms of numbers. Does anyone know how many Korkut systems do we have now? Are we defending our key facilities enough? With regards to your other point. We have intelligent and creative people. We are more pragmatic. I have worked more than 20 years with quant PhDs from best universities. They are not better than us. But they are disciplined, very diligent, and focused. We can as a nation offer the framework to our people to be better than Europe and come closer to America. But we have management, organization, and motivation problems. We also have many people in high places who just care about their own pocket and power. That is eating my country alive unfortunately. We have too many passive traitors. I call passive because through their laziness, lack of motivation, or lack of competence they harm the country. And in our country most people who can help and want to help are somehow alienated and don’t get to those positions.@Altay2071 @BalkanTurk90
I hear you guys. In fact, loud and clear
Yes, I wish we had done things earlier and faster but I am personally at a point to appreciate what Turkish industry has achieved within this time frame. There’s only so much can be done.
The truth is we started our own damn defense industry from scratch (with the exception of Aselsan, MKEK, and Tusas. Please don’t kill me) and worked to establish an efficient and hopefully sufficient industry with enough know how and technological output so that every other component supplement and feed each other.
In other word, we created our own independent and self sustaining defense ecosystem. Obviously, not level with the US or major EU countries and maybe never will be but it’s there now and as long as we don’t screw it up and keep enhancing and coordinating it, it will only grow stronger.
In conclusion, as much as I agree with you on every single fact you put forth, I’m also inclined to believe that only this much could be done at this particular time.
We are not even allocating 2 percent, I don't get why why why.
can anyone please give me a source about the confirmation of ATAK II naval version development ? and also is chenk s a multifunctional radar or only a surveillance radar ?
