TR Naval Programs

[Anmdt]

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Datum AŞ multi-purpose midget submarine design, that will be the base configuration for 4 different designs (to start with); SOF Delivery (shown in image), Submarine Rescue (limited depth), Touristic submarine and modular submarine development test-bed, the project is now supported by SSB via TKY (Technological Contribution Responsibility) of the Sefine Shipyard - DIMDEG project.

The SOF variant will have a floating antenna.

Fits into a 20TEU container and transport aircraft.

Don't know if it counts since it is rather an R&D and technology gain project.

DATUM - ITU NOVA (SSB project)

• Multi purpose midget submarine technology demonstrator (under construction)

Told y'all. It is under construction, In a few weeks the company is expected to hold an event to present the progress.

Primarily a test submarine, technology demonstator and base for future unmanned submarines as a working mini-sub platform. However, it requires decent amount of workmanship to transform into a military product, as is - it offers quite a good start. It is a great capability and know-how to be acquired by a start-up.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1721612775749775752

Double hull (FRP outer hull, steel inner hull), 2 foldable periscope configuration, 2 torpedoes (for tests), electric submarine, 4 crew (2 operator, 2 test team).

 

[Ripley]

Told y'all. It is under construction, In a few weeks the company is expected to hold an event to present the progress.

Primarily a test submarine, technology demonstator and base for future unmanned submarines as a working mini-sub platform. However, it requires decent amount of workmanship to transform into a military product, as is - it offers quite a good start. It is a great capability and know-how to be acquired by a start-up.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1721612775749775752

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Double hull (FRP outer hull, steel inner hull), 2 foldable periscope configuration, 2 torpedoes (for tests), electric submarine, 4 crew (2 operator, 2 test team).

Awesome. So it will be built just As a test bed to test EW and other components for future mini sub projects. Is it correct?

 

[Anmdt]

Awesome. So it will be built just As a test bed to test EW and other components for future mini sub projects. Is it correct?

Testing any underwater or submarine based components, and possibly anything would be related to unmanned submarines in far future.

 

[UkroTurk]

Told y'all. It is under construction, In a few weeks the company is expected to hold an event to present the progress.

Primarily a test submarine, technology demonstator and base for future unmanned submarines as a working mini-sub platform. However, it requires decent amount of workmanship to transform into a military product, as is - it offers quite a good start. It is a great capability and know-how to be acquired by a start-up.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1721612775749775752

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Double hull (FRP outer hull, steel inner hull), 2 foldable periscope configuration, 2 torpedoes (for tests), electric submarine, 4 crew (2 operator, 2 test team).

According to photos, could you please elaborate specifications? Dimensions, weight, range, cost?

Fully electric without Diesel? And two heavy 533mm torpedos?

 

[Ripley]

According to photos, could you please elaborate specifications? Dimensions, weight, range, cost?

Fully electric without Diesel? And two heavy 533mm torpedos?

Length: 12 meters
width: 2,30 meters
diving depth: 300 meters
cruise speed: 4 knot
maximum speed: 8 knot
cruise time/endurance: 20 hours on 4kt
Crew: 4
main propulsion : Lead-acid battery

The maximum depth is really impressive. 300 meters.

 

[UkroTurk]

Length: 12 meters
width: 2,30 meters
diving depth: 300 meters
cruise speed: 4 knot
maximum speed: 8 knot
cruise time/endurance: 20 hours on 4kt
Crew: 4
main propulsion : Lead-acid battery

The maximum depth is really impressive. 300 meters.

Absolutely maximum depth is great.
İt might weight around 30-40 ton.

 

[Anmdt]

According to photos, could you please elaborate specifications? Dimensions, weight, range, cost?

Fully electric without Diesel? And two heavy 533mm torpedos?

This is a TKY (Technological gain liability) project, likely a percentage of DIMDEG project is used for here. Shouldn't be more than few million dollars including the R&D.

Absolutely maximum depth is great.
İt might weight around 30-40 ton.

It is transportable by a low-bed truck, so definitely not that much. The dimensions are overall, a portion of the dimension is floodable (between the two hulls). My bet would go for less than 20 or even 15 tons.

 

[UkroTurk]

This is a TKY (Technological gain liability) project, likely a percentage of DIMDEG project is used for here. Shouldn't be more than few million dollars including the R&D.


It is transportable by a low-bed truck, so definitely not that much. The dimensions are overall, a portion of the dimension is floodable (between the two hulls). My bet would go for less than 20 or even 15 tons.

So noone could fuck around our critical naval bases, harbours etc.

Also TCG ANADOLU could be mother ship.

Kinda Bayraktar TB2 or YTKB.

We are looking forward to seeing its sonars and sensors. Personally i would love to see it with Synthetic aperture Sonar.

 

[UkroTurk]

Another question how long would it take to recharge its battery at Naval base? 20 hours?

 

[Ripley]

Another question how long would it take to recharge its battery at Naval base? 20 hours?

And another question: could it be launched from a simple launchpad at any random location (geography permitting) after being transported on a truck?
The advantage of such a mobility gain would be amazing

 

[Anmdt]

Another question how long would it take to recharge its battery at Naval base? 20 hours?

Not sure of the exact battery configuration but shouldn't exceed 3 hours.

And another question: could it be launched from a simple launchpad at any random location (geography permitting) after being transported on a truck?
The advantage of such a mobility gain would be amazing

This is the entire point of making it transportable.

 

[Ripley]

Not sure of the exact battery configuration but shouldn't exceed 3 hours.


This is the entire point of making it transportable.

So, a mobile launchpad will also be transported to to the designated launch point. Cool.

EDIT: Or better yet, the mini sub could be transported secured on the launchpad as a single unit and entire unit could be unloaded, set up and ready the the sub to be slipped away at any shore line.

 

[Anmdt]

So, a mobile launchpad will also be transported to to the designated launch point. Cool.

EDIT: Or better yet, the mini sub could be transported secured on the launchpad as a single unit and entire unit could be unloaded, set up and ready the the sub to be slipped away at any shore line.

The carrier will be the launch pad i believe.

 

[Sanchez]

This is a TKY (Technological gain liability) project, likely a percentage of DIMDEG project is used for here. Shouldn't be more than few million dollars including the R&D.

I like this so much. Kudos to the company, navy and SSB people that made this possible.

 

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[boredaf]

@Anmdt

Why is Datum and its projects are almost impossible to find on the Internet? Other than 1 article from 2020, there is no information anywhere, and their website is nothing but 1 paragraph put in front of a nice background and a contact page that is nothing but 2 Lorem Ipsum's and a stock photo. I can find more about their CEO than the company itself, which doesn't even have a Linkedin page.

 

[UkroTurk]

Echo Voyager

Long endurance, host ship independent system delivers capabilities anywhere.

www.boeing.com

Our Navy knows its shit! We are competing with Americans.

 

[boredaf]

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Echo Voyager

Long endurance, host ship independent system delivers capabilities anywhere.

www.boeing.com

Our Navy knows its shit! We are competing with Americans.

That's a completely different class though, not just in its displacement, endurance and depth but also it has made multiple tests and a contract was already awarded for the actual unmanned submarine to be built based on this design. We are just taking first steps now.

 

[Anmdt]

@Anmdt

Why is Datum and its projects are almost impossible to find on the Internet? Other than 1 article from 2020, there is no information anywhere, and their website is nothing but 1 paragraph put in front of a nice background and a contact page that is nothing but 2 Lorem Ipsum's and a stock photo. I can find more about their CEO than the company itself, which doesn't even have a Linkedin page.

Datum mainly has one single project and it is to make a multi-purpose manned mini submarine (And i find their goals highly suitable, realizable and achievable by a start-up of given size). However, they were not able to acquire a fund to accomplish this earlier, the CEO has had the dream for a decade and worked on conceptual design(s), maturing over the time with his colleagues and on his own nearly by self-funding. The company is more or less about the founder - CEO and few colleagues of him. He preferred to keep a low profile since he has got the project and funds, as you might know why, If you are living in TR and got such a fund, there would be a herd of vultures trying to rip off the budget (for no reason they would place obstacles and then ask for some -help- to ease the burden of passing through). I believe, after accomplish certain goals and assuring his position in 'capability' to the higher ups, the company will have more information in the website and continue to work on other designs.

 

[UkroTurk]

Semi-autonomous mini submarine seems to me more effective rather than fully autonomous one .
İt doesn't require inefficient navigation system which limits missions while reducing crew saves more space, oxygen resources.

I wish modern MBTs to be one manned.

Two manned mini-sub like modern fighter aircraft.


Look at Boeing's Navigation system:
"The XLUUV’s navigation system features a proven Kalman filtered Inertial Navigation Unit supported by Doppler Velocity Logs and depth sensors offering superior directional accuracy"