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F-16 bey, ne yapıyorsunuz?
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I could not find the original source of the photo, if anyone knows it, please add it.

Please urgently provide our pilots with navalized jets, there are some of them who are extremely impatient.
 

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I think these pics are from command-control and Joint Warfare Headquarters of TCG Anadolu
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TCG Anadolu will set sail from Sarayburnu towards the Black Sea from 09.00 on 23 April. She will sail to the Black Sea by greeting the European and Asian sides.
Man Iam telling you, it is such a beautiful ship ffs
Every day, with each picture of its interior, Iam falling in love even more❤❤❤
 

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Option 4 ?
This option allows for STOVL operation as well as conventional CATOBAR on angled runway albeit being a tad intrusive with STOVL operation. For aircraft recovery it is the safest route.
But needs a lot of reconfiguration of flight deck.

If a lot of aircraft is to be stationed on the ship, especially a mixture of STOVL with conventional, then option 1 and 4 are most useful.
 

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Since it takes a long time maybe it's not wrong to look ahead. Now we don't need a carrier and it seems like a waste of resources but in the 2030's we will have a bigger Air force, economy and a population which will go into the direction of 100 million people.

I think Turkey will be an important player in Asia and Europe if we don't start procurement now, maybe we will wish we did so in 10 years
Normally Turkiye would never reach 100 million inhabitants, studies show this. But because of the ignorant bigots from Syria and Afghanistan, it may pass now.

These are all for reputation, the president of Turkiye attaches great importance to reputation. That is why we are building an aircraft carrier.

I prefer 10 TF2000 and submarines instead of YNUG
 
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I prefer 10 TF2000 and submarines instead of YNUG
TCG Anadolu should never have been built. We are not a rich nation to splash cash at such extravagant platforms. We do not have cash rich big brothers like Egypt has.
Bayraktar/Sancaktar class LSTs would have sufficed for our needs. At less than half the price of an LHD like Anadolu and much cheaper to maintain they would have been the logical choice.
Even TF2000 destroyer is an unnecessary expenditure. Yes, we need Air-Defence platforms. But a good number of 4500ton frigates would be the better and more balanced choice.
8 x I-class, 8 x 4500ton AD frigates with 4 modernised Barbaros class ships would be the cleverer and more economical choice in the long run.
10 OPVs with 4 Ada Class will give a very respectable corvette class force projection. (Let us not forget the 4 corvettes, the Dost Class ships we have with our coast guard either)
I agree we need more modern submarines. Milden project is the right choice. 500ton mini sub is an ingenious idea for the shallow seas we have around us.

But now the TCG Anadolu is here. We have to embrace it and make it work. These ships are best in twos. So when we can afford it we will have to consider a second one. We will have to find ways to protect these ships as well. Not having AD missiles like Hisar-O+ or Siper on board means we will have to attach to them, modern and effective protection ships, submarines etc while she is sailing, just like a carrier group.
 

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TCG Anadolu should never have been built. We are not a rich nation to splash cash at such extravagant platforms. We do not have cash rich big brothers like Egypt has.
Bayraktar/Sancaktar class LSTs would have sufficed for our needs. At less than half the price of an LHD like Anadolu and much cheaper to maintain they would have been the logical choice.
Even TF2000 destroyer is an unnecessary expenditure. Yes, we need Air-Defence platforms. But a good number of 4500ton frigates would be the better and more balanced choice.
8 x I-class, 8 x 4500ton AD frigates with 4 modernised Barbaros class ships would be the cleverer and more economical choice in the long run.
10 OPVs with 4 Ada Class will give a very respectable corvette class force projection. (Let us not forget the 4 corvettes, the Dost Class ships we have with our coast guard either)
I agree we need more modern submarines. Milden project is the right choice. 500ton mini sub is an ingenious idea for the shallow seas we have around us.

But now the TCG Anadolu is here. We have to embrace it and make it work. These ships are best in twos. So when we can afford it we will have to consider a second one. We will have to find ways to protect these ships as well. Not having AD missiles like Hisar-O+ or Siper on board means we will have to attach to them, modern and effective protection ships, submarines etc while she is sailing, just like a carrier group.
The largest, the biggest warships of imperial Japanese navy were:

"Sunk by American planes"
They shared same Destiny.

The Big is not always the best.
 

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@Anmdt Do you think Navy will go a similar route in the future to satisfy its LRMPA requirements? Seeing how aircrafts like the P-8 are unprocurable for us and I believe we had signed on onto a NATO project to develop a MPA based on the A320 but with how things are and that project having been radio silent since the signatures were written as well as Germany procuring P-8s and France seemingly goings it own way this seem like the only option.

Unless they thing they can satisfy their needs with drones which for me seems the wrong option.
 

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I'm very much interested in how Sea Sultan will fare in Pakistani service. It's an interesting design with lots of room to grow.
 

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@Anmdt Do you think Navy will go a similar route in the future to satisfy its LRMPA requirements? Seeing how aircrafts like the P-8 are unprocurable for us and I believe we had signed on onto a NATO project to develop a MPA based on the A320 but with how things are and that project having been radio silent since the signatures were written as well as Germany procuring P-8s and France seemingly goings it own way this seem like the only option.

Unless they thing they can satisfy their needs with drones which for me seems the wrong option.
I also think so, yes A320 is the only viable option considering TurAF is also opting ( at least rumored / alleged ) for Airbus tanker. But we would wait for sensors to mature along with unmanned systems to see how that will unfold in future.
 

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Parallel / Inclined runways are also about operational efficiency. You may watch it in documentaries how fast USN dispatches an air wing from those inclined runways using multiple catapults or how frequently they may land as one runway is cleared asap making space for another landing or take off.
This is not possible in case of parallel runway due to the safety reasons. The runway is always occupied regardless of what has landed and should be kept cleared.
Angled deck does allow more space for catapults. Although not all angled deck carriers have catapults. Shandong have angled deck but no catapults at all. And the statistics is staggering between the Shandong and the Fords who maximize the angled deck for additional catapult.


As lately as 2022, Shandong manages 20 sorties/day while Ford manages 170 in 8.5 hours.
 

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Angled deck does allow more space for catapults. Although not all angled deck carriers have catapults. Shandong have angled deck but no catapults at all. And the statistics is staggering between the Shandong and the Fords who maximize the angled deck for additional catapult.


As lately as 2022, Shandong manages 20 sorties/day while Ford manages 170 in 8.5 hours.
In the end, there are only few examples of "proper aircraft carrier" so statistics wouldn't be reliable. I haven't heard LHD - AC designers start with relying on statistics as the ones do with corvettes / frigates. Their design is almost from scratch thus takes a longer time.
 
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