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What's the point of calling her an OPV if it's to be armed with 8 cell VLS, it's better armed than Ada Class ships now.

"The Hisar Class Offshore Patrol Ships are considered as an important step towards Turkey's domestic and national defense industry targets. The first ship will be built by Dearsan Shipyard, which is the pilot partner in the project, and the second ship will be built by DESAN Kaptanoğlu Shipyard in modern shipyard facilities in Tuzla. Deliveries under the contract will take place between 2028 and 2029."

So,what's the difference between them?
 

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To be honest I don't see the problem. if our OPV are armed to the teeth for instant warfare. Then that's all good in my book. We can call her light patrol boat for all I care as long as the capabilities and arms are real.

Seeing how things are going to sh.its in the little time Trump has been sitting in his office it's best to be armed and ruthless. Deterrent is the key for our peace the next 4 years.
 

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So,what's the difference between them?
Hisar Class OPVs lack the Cenk-S(Cenk-400) radar and ES/EA modules that is found on Istif class ships. They can carry half the amount of ASMs and VLS cells from what's shown. I'm very surprised actually that the design changed considerably to lengthened Istif hull. They probably keep the same propulsion method found on the first two Hisars. @Anmdt any ideas?
 

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Hisar Class OPVs lack the Cenk-S(Cenk-400) radar and ES/EA modules that is found on Istif class ships. They can carry half the amount of ASMs and VLS cells from what's shown. I'm very surprised actually that the design changed considerably to lengthened Istif hull. They probably keep the same propulsion method found on the first two Hisars. @Anmdt any ideas?
What about the metal used for the hull,is it the same and the overall structure?
 

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What's the point of calling her an OPV if it's to be armed with 8 cell VLS, it's better armed than Ada Class ships now.

"The Hisar Class Offshore Patrol Ships are considered as an important step towards Turkey's domestic and national defense industry targets. The first ship will be built by Dearsan Shipyard, which is the pilot partner in the project, and the second ship will be built by DESAN Kaptanoğlu Shipyard in modern shipyard facilities in Tuzla. Deliveries under the contract will take place between 2028 and 2029."

I think one difference still lies within the operator, yes still it is TN but OPVs will be serving within a different command along with other patrol boats, than what combatants do. Particularly tasked with protection of shores, EEZ and transition zones.

+ sensors, MAR-D and AKREP 100N (50km), equipped with KATS but lacks EA,ED antennas. Possibly will be equipped with DUFAS CU and Hizir TKAS TASS unit.

In contrary to that Ada will be upgraded with CENK, AKREP 300N(100km + illumination), KAT, EA + ED and again DUFAS CU or DUFAS, and ofcourse with the gas turbine.

And yes possibly CODOE will be kept but i think they may change the suppliers of the equipment for motors or gears (much less likely, but might happen).

Desan is not quite 'modern' at all. Still wondering why our state agencies saving ass of a shipyard or another which can not secure any contracts on their own.

First got a helping hand from STM for Malaysian MPMS and now an OPV with Dearsan, while obviously Dearsan will use facilities of Desan somewhat like 'renting out'. Did Dearsan somehow acquire Desan unknown to the media or open sources?
 

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As these ships are to be built with VLS, could it be because now that Bozdogan based Goksur system has been successfully fired from what looks like a VLS canister, these ships will have a point defence system based on Goksur VLS?

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Thus, they do not need high end radar systems like the Ada Class??
 
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As these ships are to be built with VLS, could it be because now that Bozdogan based Goksur system has been successfully fired from what looks like a VLS canister, these ships will have a point defence system based on Goksur VLS?

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Thus, they do not need high end radar systems like the Ada Class??
Even though plausible, the rendering looks explicitly like MIDLAS and not Göktuğ based VLS, interesting
 

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As these ships are to be built with VLS, could it be because now that Bozdogan based Goksur system has been successfully fired from what looks like a VLS canister, these ships will have a point defence system based on Goksur VLS?

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Thus, they do not need high end radar systems like the Ada Class??
Judging from size VLS on Hisar Class OPVs seem to be Roketsan's MIDLAS. If it was customized VL made by Aselsan or single unit launcher for Hisar-D/O by Roketsan, that was going to be placed mid hull as we have seen before.

Though judging from the sectional geometry at the spot, the current VLS seems to be shorter than Tactical Length and i believe they will do further adjustments. But i am certain on a matter that, these cells will be quadpack-able and the OPV may carry 32 Hisar DB2 at maximum. Siper D Block1 also seems short enough to fit at a shorter VLS.
 

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I recall only SİPER B2 and later will require strike-length so yeah, SİPER B1 can be put but usage is a different matter with the unchanged sensor package

I guess we could say we have gotten ourselves a mini İstif-class both in looks and functionality
 

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