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we prob need at least 8 if not 12 or even 14 3 for MUGEMs task force, 2-3 for Anadolu and another 2-3 for a future LHD thats 7-9 ships just as escorts and if u account for ships being maintained etc. so another 2 ships for that adds up to 9-11 and well it would be nice to have some destroyers to secure the Aegean and the med as well ofc our task forces wont be projecting power continents away most of the time so i might js be overexaggerating the numbers we need but imo at least 12 ships would be nice to have esp if they are planning another (possibly nuclear powered) carrier
 

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so i might js be overexaggerating the numbers we need but imo at least 12 ships would be nice to have esp if they are planning another (possibly nuclear powered) carrier
Bro, these destroyers are essentially air defence destroyers. For escort duties 1 destroyer should suffice. Two would be OK but instead of two destroyers two frigates, one ASW specialised and one general purpose with the destroyer and a submarine or two should be enough as a carrier group. Standard complement of US carrier group is 2 destroyers and a frigate with a nuclear attack submarine (not ballistic missile one). Any additions are “mission” related.
Looking at the future planning of navy ; 4 Tepe Class ships are plenty. Remaining units should be mid weight, but heavier than İstif class frigates, smaller versions of Tepe Class as per @Anmdt has pointed out earlier @ post #6479 in below page.

 
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Bro, these destroyers are essentially air defence destroyers. For escort duties 1 destroyer should suffice. Two would be OK but instead of two destroyers two frigates, one ASW specialised and one general purpose with the destroyer and a submarine or two should be enough as a carrier group. Standard complement of US carrier group is 2 destroyers and a frigate with a nuclear attack submarine (not ballistic missile one). Any additions are “mission” related.
Looking at the future planning of navy ; 4 Tepe Class ships are plenty. Remaining units should be mid weight, but heavier than İstif class frigates, smaller versions of Tepe Class as per @Anmdt has pointed out earlier @ post #6479 in below page.

Is it a good idea to invest in the design of a new ship between Istif (113m) and Tepe (149m). Fremm is with 144m almost the same size as Tepe. We will save only marginally from material costs. But we will get a platform with wide range, flexible to use 32 or 64 Midlas, more capacity for crew, USV, and UAV or ASW capability. We can try to save from radar maybe a bit or any other high cost item where we can afford to slightly downgrade in terms of performance but designing a brand new ship of around 135m does not sound time efficient.
 

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Is it a good idea to invest in the design of a new ship between Istif (113m) and Tepe (149m). Fremm is with 144m almost the same size as Tepe. We will save only marginally from material costs. But we will get a platform with wide range, flexible to use 32 or 64 Midlas, more capacity for crew, USV, and UAV or ASW capability. We can try to save from radar maybe a bit or any other high cost item where we can afford to slightly downgrade in terms of performance but designing a brand new ship of around 135m does not sound time efficient.
What part of the primary tasks of the Tepe class didnt you understand?
Air defence,covering all our territory with those destroyers.
Fremm is a frigate which can be configured to many duties.
Tepe is primarely for defence,Fremm can be used for both defense and offense depending on the configuration.
You cant just cheapen the Tepe with less or different weapons,it would be costly and foolish(dumb,stupid).
Thats why we need a bigger frigate then then Istif between 4500 to 5500 tons to be used for multiple tasks.
 
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