What I do about Gökdeniz is not criticism but determination. Why did we see the Phalanx, not Gökdeniz, in the Class I frigate project published in IDEF 2019 before the sanctions? There must be an explanation for this. Pahalanx can be used as a missile or barreled system when desired. And it's a complex system with both C-RAM and air defense derivatives. It is a system in front of Gökdeniz in terms of reaction speed and number of rounds per minute. In addition, Phalanx is a system that has proven itself in the field. Gökdeniz is the first step of Aselsan for marine systems and will not be the last step. As a result, the two systems are not in the same class due to their architecture. Gökdeniz is mostly in the same class as the Rheinmetall Millennium.
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Gokdeniz wasn't around by then. Preliminary design was published before idef and sketched on what is avaliable.
Then Gokdeniz development has started and once publicly updated design was present in Idef, publicly we could see gokdeniz on it.
Tf-2000 was shown with phalanx, millenium gun and soon we will see it with gokdeniz.
Gokdeniz is sligtly bulky compared to millenium gun but lets not forget it has standalone mode with its own search and fire control radar and probably more ready to fire rounds as requested by Turkish Navy.
The major problem is the barrel, if MKE or anybody else can develop a 1300 rps barrel, Gokdeniz can get smaller.
I think there were some sketches of a ciws prior to gokdeniz with 20mm-25mm hardshell munition and manpads missile.
Perhaps those 4 panels on the main mast are giant ELINT arrays?
What was this radars ? There are any guy can define this radars ? We all think a about ufuk is a signt ship but he also test ship right ?
There are any possibilities the ufuk is testing new radar suit for İ class ?
Also ufuk and istanbul class radar masts shows similaritiies .
Also there are good place in the back of the i class for rotated x or s band class radar.
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Yes, radar panels is small for İ class mission profile but you knows we are have gan based radar module tech and this modules have a very great performans when compared old radar techs and gaas. 300 km s band range and 100-150 km x band range could be great profile for that kind ship and gan technology this sized radars can be enuogh for this.
Probably yes ELINT Radar, most of sensors on TCG Ufuk is confidential and custom, thus not avaliable.
However, the radar on rear side is probably has a standardized application because it was seen in on STM's OPV design , so probably it is 2D search radar. Will be available in catalagoue soon.
The rear platform on I-Class will be used for DIRCM in future
, the ship will not need additional FCR-Illumination radar once it is equipped with fixed panel aesa radar on main mast.
Smart -L is huge and it will obstuct the exhaust while rotating and be exposed to exhaust gas.
Naval assets should regularly be replaced using the same vehicle for 50 years (even 30-40) years is pure desperation.
Everyone is looking far ahead and it’s good. But considering our mavi vatan doctrine and how we’re without any ally in this endeavor I think it’s more paramount to get those frigates and destroyers out there not forgetting the fac of course.
I would be much happier knowing we had more frigates than 4 Istif swimming now, adding to our overall firepower. But that would require TN to either increase it’s personelle or efficiency with current personelle.
We may have many shipyards, but those shipyards needs to produce and not stand still. So I think the government is not involving more shipyards to avoid incurring cost. Any shipyard that is awesome enough to have commercial costumers should be protected from getting dragged in to military endeavor, though I have no idea if that would be a hindrance for their business.
Anyway We have our admiral ship let’s keep it that way. Wasting more time and money on it won’t really help us. I think delivering two frigates in the same year/month should be the goal. If we’re going to show off against anyone.
The life cycle depends on too many variables, NATO suggests 30 year of service span for a frigate.
Advantage of developing and contruction a domestic warship means that upgrades are continous and will be adapted immediately once it became avaliable. No need to wait for MLU or for that new system to be exported. Or, a fresh system can be removed and installed on a newly built platform. When Gabya class retires, all upgraded sensors, Mk41, consoles will be transferred to some other ships.
Like Yavuz class has received EC/ESM upgrade despite of being in the end of their life span.
Some ships can go beyond their economical life just for not being heavily used or sent out to missions. Thus they remain in good condition and can be upgraded (like B-Class and Gabya)
