Live Conflict Pakistan-India Conflict (2025)

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First Bhutto says Pak ready to handover terrorists like Hafiz Saeed to India

https://www.businesstoday.in/world/...-hafiz-saeeds-son-hits-back-483290-2025-07-06

Then Hafiz Saeed son responds.


Makes you wonder what kind of banana republic Pakistan is
Come on man according to some here we are the rogue country who has terrorists magically come up with pak G3s and pak ordinance factory grenades and kill our citizens and when we strike back we are the baddies.
 

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Come on man according to some here we are the rogue country who has terrorists magically come up with pak G3s and pak ordinance factory grenades and kill our citizens and when we strike back we are the baddies.
Never heard any such thing here.
 

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Enjoyed watching the Pakistani Senator squirm in this video


Apparently, this is the quality of the delegation that Pak has sent around to world to make its case 😂

Pakistanis probably thought if they send a lighter skinned women dressed like a westerner it will do wonders for their image. But truth be told if you send a idiot like this onto a Zionist affiliated media entity like sky news, its your own fault if you end up looking a fool.

I've seen shitty politicians, diplomates from AK party getting cooked the same way on western media. None of them made any effort to prepare for the obvious questions they would get. They go on these propaganda entities and then humilated the entire nation. Because at the end of the day all western media entities that cover the news are propaganda outlets first and foremost. Its not about informing the public its about misdirecting them towards geopolitical ambitions of the nations who own the media.

The real trick is to have your own media channels and only do interviews on there. That way the message you want to push 100% goes your way every time.
 

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Pakistanis probably thought if they send a lighter skinned women dressed like a westerner it will do wonders for their image. But truth be told if you send a idiot like this onto a Zionist affiliated media entity like sky news, its your own fault if you end up looking a fool.

I've seen shitty politicians, diplomates from AK party getting cooked the same way on western media. None of them made any effort to prepare for the obvious questions they would get. They go on these propaganda entities and then humilated the entire nation. Because at the end of the day all western media entities that cover the news are propaganda outlets first and foremost. Its not about informing the public its about misdirecting them towards geopolitical ambitions of the nations who own the media.

The real trick is to have your own media channels and only do interviews on there. That way the message you want to push 100% goes your way every time.

Yah well, if a country is ultra reliant on frequent IMF bailouts, there is only so much buffer/wherewithall it has for its own independent foreign policy, media ecosystem etc.

I mean the cringe western media touring is just part of larger thing thats baked in:


Pakistan is literally in the company of Israel now, both have nominated charlatan Trump for the nobel peace prize.

But Pakistan is in precarious economic spot that forces it this way (compared to say AIPAC etc that sets context for Israel-US) to basically kiss Trump's derriere, even if his admin develops the Indian relationship in a longer term way (again commensurate to India not needing bailouts and growing its economy and geopolitical significance at pace it does rather than dawdling and atrophying here).

It is relevant for Turkiye too, AKP economic mismanagement means more of what you describe in Turkish context too.

Imagine if Turks had solid Ataturk style leader right now (needed the 90s gulen subversion era to not happen essentially), the economy would be in good shape to begin with and you have more options in doing exactly what you describe from the inside out, rather than do the hat in hand shenanigans and hope it doesnt bite you later.
 

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Doval said India targeted 9 terror targets in Pakistan with precision and added that the entire operation took only 23 minutes​


It seems to have caused a bit of a meltdown in Pak
During the fighting, this is not a new development as I read the piece.
 

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Washington, D.C.: US President Donald Trump says, "We stopped a lot of wars. And these were serious, India and Pakistan, that was going on. Planes were being shot out of there. I think five jets were shot down, actually. These are two serious nuclear countries, and they were hitting each other. You know, it seems like a new form of warfare. You saw it recently when you looked at what we did in Iran, where we knocked out their nuclear capability, totally knocked out that... But India and Pakistan were going at it, and they were back and forth, and it was getting bigger and bigger, and we got it solved through trade. We said, you guys want to make a trade deal. We're not making a trade deal if you're going to be throwing around weapons, and maybe nuclear weapons, both very powerful nuclear states."
 

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Washington, D.C.: US President Donald Trump says, "We stopped a lot of wars. And these were serious, India and Pakistan, that was going on. Planes were being shot out of there. I think five jets were shot down, actually. These are two serious nuclear countries, and they were hitting each other. You know, it seems like a new form of warfare. You saw it recently when you looked at what we did in Iran, where we knocked out their nuclear capability, totally knocked out that... But India and Pakistan were going at it, and they were back and forth, and it was getting bigger and bigger, and we got it solved through trade. We said, you guys want to make a trade deal. We're not making a trade deal if you're going to be throwing around weapons, and maybe nuclear weapons, both very powerful nuclear states."
So atleast 2 from India and atleast 3 from Pakistan ?
 

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Congrats to Pak

The PAF C-130 Hercules, already known globally for its custom thematic paint jobs, won the “Best-Looking Static Aircraft” award. The aircraft featured a breathtaking special livery, celebrating Pakistan’s cultural diversity and military resilience.


The JF-17 Thunder Block III, Pakistan’s pride in indigenous fighter development, stole the show in the aerial category. Piloted by Squadron Leader Usman Khalid, the Thunder jet wowed thousands of spectators and earned the “Best Solo Jet Display” award.

Well - I am sure it looks pretty and the livery is great. Too bad, none of that really matters in combat and has nothing to do with this thread
 

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So atleast 2 from India and atleast 3 from Pakistan ?

Talking about areal kills. If the number is true, it is likely all of them are IAF jets. If Indians would have actually shot down anything, armed forces and GOI would have definitely come out with it loud and clear with atleast some evidences. Last time, IAF faked shooting down an F16 to save face. It is no more credible than Pak military.
 

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Talking about areal kills. If the number is true, it is likely all of them are IAF jets. If Indians would have actually shot down anything, armed forces and GOI would have definitely come out with it loud and clear with atleast some evidences. Last time, IAF faked shooting down an F16 to save face. It is no more credible than Pak military.
They did. Spoke of “advanced jets” being shot down
 

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You haven't seen any evidence of an 5 Indian jets shot down either except for an alleged French engine

No, we have seen Wreckages of three jets on the indian sides. And then your leadership admitted, 'Loses (plural) are part of combat'.

Doesn't require further evidence after admission.
 

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