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Exactly ! Get in a war and this way you can divert people's attention. And take advantage of this by graping even more power. It's a common practice actually. Either way Greece will never attack first.
Why would Greece attack?
Greece already has the bases and the islands to cover their EEZ; all what they need is to weaponise the islands, build strong defences in addition to a line of US bases along the Turkish border. Then the Greeks will announce their drilling into turkish EEZ and the one who will be forced to fight for its rights at the time, will be Turkey yet it cant since either the HDP will put pressure on the defemce industry or the US will have completed a string of bases that will force the Turks to just sit an watch their resources being plundered

Read my previous post mate; rn, the one in the position of power is Greece but the balance is slowly starting to retilt to Turkey'z favour. Greece wont wait until the balance is completely in Turkey's favour and is setting the field with such thoughts in mind
 

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A HDP-defence minister will ripp Aselsan and Roketsan to the ground and turn their factories into Kurdish Transgenders Promotion Institutions and a CHP president will fine and close Bayraktar because of their weapons of mass destruction, like they buried those perfect German planes in Kayseri in the 1950 (those were supposed to reverse engineer) and build US planes out of fear.

If ZP is not gonna win, than its better for the defence industry and foreign policy to continue with AKP/MHP.
 
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A HDP-defence minister will ripp Aselsan and Roketsan to the ground and turn their factories into Kurdish Transgenders Promotion Institutions and a CHP president will fine and close Bayraktar because of their weapons of mass destruction, like they buried those perfect German planes in Kayseri in the 1950 (those were supposed to reverse engineer) and build US planes out of fear.

If ZP is not gonna win, than its better for the defence industry and foreign policy to continue with AKP/MHP.
Yeah lets elect them and make dollar 30 tl while we suffer you are going to enjoy netherlands right?

You people get on my nerves while price for everything rising you guys find reasons to support akp.
 
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I don't really wanna call out names but What I have been seeing here was Only non turks or not all but turks living abroad supporting akp.

And this is hurting us Turks living here our living standarts have been going down since 2015 please for once think about us the ones living here.
 

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Yeah lets elect them and make dollar 30 tl while we suffer you are going to enjoy netherlands right?

You people get on my nerves while price for everything rising you guys find reasons to support akp.

I retired to Turkey my friend. I just bought 1 kilo pistacho's for 190 tl. Thats madness. Last summer it was 70 tl. Thats a raise more than 100%.

I asked the vendor are those pistachos produced in the US or with dollars? No, they are from Antep. The vendor couldnt answer.
 
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I retired to Turkey my friend. I just bought 1 kilo pistacho's for 190 tl. Thats madness. Last summer it was 70 tl. Thats a raise more than 100%.

I asked the vendor are those pistachos produced in the US or with dollars? No, they are from Antep. The vendor couldnt answer.
It will get worse chicken breast was like 35 tl now Its 95.
 

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It will get worse chicken breast was like 35 tl now Its 95.

Yes but what i dont understand, how could the prices of products from our own bottom raise so hard? I am not talking about gasoline or Adidas, those are coming from abroad.

I just back from the Netherlands so i went shopping this week because my fridge was empty.

1 kg sugar is 100 TL. If you read the package, it says 'fresh made from Turkish beetroots' and 'Original product of Turkey'. Its a domestic product, how could the price be so volatile?

These domestic products must save you in times of war and recession, or if you get sanctioned. Because you produce them without help from other countries and the price is lower for your people.

Sugar from Elazığ, thea from Rize, salt from Van, pistachos from Antep, walnuts from Samsun, cheese, yoghurt, milk. I can make a whole list. We produce a lot domestic products but even they are not safe.
 

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With an economy minister who is telling you look into my eyes and see the twinkling you can expect any prices
 

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Greece already has the bases and the islands to cover their EEZ; all what they need is to weaponise the islands, build strong defences in addition to a line of US bases along the Turkish border. Then the Greeks will announce their drilling into turkish EEZ and the one who will be forced to fight for its rights at the time, will be Turkey yet it cant since either
Why have you noticed it today? Where have you been for 20years?
 

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Aselsan and Roketsan to the ground and turn their factories into Kurdish Transgenders Promotion Institutions and a CHP president will fine and close Bayraktar because of their weapons of mass destruction
Do you know most of Turkish engineers vote for CHP which you blame of being HDP?
 

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“All Israelis should leave Turkey and return to Israel,” the official said.


Before 9/11 Israel warned their citizens to leave US. Something is gonna happen in Turkey.
 

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Yes but what i dont understand, how could the prices of products from our own bottom raise so hard? I am not talking about gasoline or Adidas, those are coming from abroad.

I just back from the Netherlands so i went shopping this week because my fridge was empty.

1 kg sugar is 100 TL. If you read the package, it says 'fresh made from Turkish beetroots' and 'Original product of Turkey'. Its a domestic product, how could the price be so volatile?

These domestic products must save you in times of war and recession, or if you get sanctioned. Because you produce them without help from other countries and the price is lower for your people.

Sugar from Elazığ, thea from Rize, salt from Van, pistachos from Antep, walnuts from Samsun, cheese, yoghurt, milk. I can make a whole list. We produce a lot domestic products but even they are not safe.
Very simple, the machinery thats being used for the pistachio production use gasoline, the trucks that transport them use gasoline, the machinery and trucks are being imported in dollar, the pesticides are being imported in dollar.
The workers who work in the fields, factory, logistics and the vendor himself need pay raise due to inflation hence labor costs go up.

Inflation is a spiral thats hard to get out, things get more expensive so salaries have to rise, when salaries rise things get more expensive.
There is one way to stop it, stop printing money and raise interest rates above inflation.

This is the reason why i laugh at people who think with ''biz bize yeteriz'' mentality, people who think they can screw up relations with basically everyone while the country is highly dependant on imports.

Now why dont Turks produce more themselves you will ask now, well because Turks are not innovative, anyone who has some money to start up a business imadiately thinks of opening a restaurant, a shop or a car wash, all things that again consume goods that will be imported elsewhere, only very few actually think of producing something, opening a factory, invest in efficient agriculture that needs less labor and ressources.
How do we change this? Invest in quality education, stop enforcing political and religious agendas into schools, they are here to raise a quality generation for the future not your political crap. The country doesnt need that many imam hatips, but its in dire need for scientific faculties and academics who are allowed to do their jobs without government inteference. LEAVE POLITICS OUT OF EDUCATION ITS DESTROYING THE FUTURE OF TURKEY!

Now the question of the questions, what do we need to do to break this devils spiral, where do we start?
Well, the answer is obvious but you will not like it...
 
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Before 9/11 Israel warned their citizens to leave US. Something is gonna happen in Turkey.

Turkey and probably UAE will be the battle ground for both Mossad and Iran intelligent agency

it's gonna be a blood bath
 

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Very simple, the machinery thats being used for the pistachio production use gasoline, the trucks that transport them use gasoline, the machinery and trucks are being imported in dollar, the pesticides are being imported in dollar.
The workers who work in the fields, factory, logistics and the vendor himself need pay raise due to inflation hence labor costs go up.

Inflation is a spiral thats hard to get out, things get more expensive so salaries have to rise, when salaries rise things get more expensive.
There is one way to stop it, stop printing money and raise interest rates above inflation.

This is the reason why i laugh at people who think with ''biz bize yeteriz'' mentality, people who think they can screw up relations with basically everyone while the country is highly dependant on imports.

Now why dont Turks produce more themselves you will ask now, well because Turks are not innovative, anyone who has some money to start up a business imadiately thinks of opening a restaurant, a shop or a car wash, all things that again consume goods that will be imported elsewhere, only very few actually think of producing something, opening a factory, invest in efficient agriculture that needs less labor and ressources.
How do we change this? Invest in quality education, stop enforcing political and religious agendas into schools, they are here to raise a quality generation for the future not your political crap. The country doesnt need that many imam hatips, but its in dire need for scientific faculties and academics who are allowed to do their jobs without government inteference. LEAVE POLITICS OUT OF EDUCATION ITS DESTROYING THE FUTURE OF TURKEY!

Now the question of the questions, what do we need to do to break this devils spiral, where do we start?
Well, the answer is obvious but you will not like it...

Quality comment but not enough like unfortunately.
 

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Unbelievable that some! call people traitors when they only wish "peace".. what happened to "Peace at Home, Peace in the World" defending national rights is a a thing and being a warmonger is another thing, Turkiye is going in wrong direction nowadays. So wishing peace makes you traitor, criminal and dumb according to akpians, they did same to former president in Cyprus, turned him to traitor with propaganda, now they will do same for opposition in Turkiye, dangerous minds and dangerous times. This one year will be very hard for Turkiye and TRNC, unless a change happens the future is very dark for good people.
 
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Only hdp or akp members can protest in this country.

Damn we turks literally have nothing left we are basically third class citizens just like in ottoman times.
 

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Unbelievable that some! call people traitors when they only wish "peace".. what happened to "Peace at Home, Peace in the World" defending national rights is a a thing and being a warmonger is another thing, Turkiye is going in wrong direction nowadays. So wishing peace makes you traitor, criminal and dumb according to akpians, they did same to former president in Cyprus, turned him to traitor with propaganda, now they will do same for opposition in Turkiye, dangerous minds and dangerous times. This one year will be very hard for Turkiye and TRNC, unless a change happens the future is very dark for good people.
You only wish for peace when the surrounding neighbours wish for peace as well, when the surrounding nations treat you as an equal. However, that is not the case for Greece and greek cypriots nor the PKK.

Greece wants all of the EEZ and literally discards the rights of 84 million turkish citizens down the drain with a shitty ass excuse
Greek Cyprus administration reached a point where they said that they wont even go near a toilet in which a Turkish cypriot once entered
Greece was sad when Haghia Sophia was turned into a mosque when nearly 10,000 Ottoman buildings were turned into Christian buildings throughout Europe.
Greece is antagonising the Turkish minority within Greece
PKK wants to split Turkey and take a major chunk due to some ass delusion called kurdistan


When such ppl are your neigbhours and you still ask for peace with them, then you are a traitor to your ppl, your nation, your blood and ancestors! And yes, I was one of those who believed that Erdogan was a traitor pre 2015 regardless of the economic conditions etc....
 
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