General Osman Özbek explain several thing in the past . this video aged like a fine wine how true his words turn out in the last years
General Osman Özbek explain several thing in the past . this video aged like a fine wine how true his words turn out in the last years
They're both scandals so ?
No one can correct their mistake by showing others'.
So can you really tell us that engaging with HUDA-Par for the elections is a scandal ?
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Oh and you didnt vote AKP in the Acilim years i guess.
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Its really nice seeing ppl defend their football teams so fervently
AKP allying with HUDA party is a sign of desperation and nothing more. Now that the prospects of AKP losing power is at its peak; they need each and every vote even if it keans they will side with the devil. If the AKP and HUDA party were so good friends then why havent they allied from the beginning
And for those who state that the HDP is less dangerous than the HUDA party or whatever; what sort of weed have you been taking? Have you all forgot the recent Istanbul explosion? Those maniacs carried out a terror attack in the heart of Turkey which is being ruled by the CHP; their supposedly ally, and a poor 4 year old girl met her demise thxx to those fqers. Those ppl are on the verge of dividing the country and ppl are bitching about HUDA party
AKP allying with HUDA party is a sign of desperation and nothing more. Now that the prospects of AKP losing power is at its peak; they need each and every vote even if it keans they will side with the devil. If the AKP and HUDA party were so good friends then why havent they allied from the beginning
And for those who state that the HDP is less dangerous than the HUDA party or whatever; what sort of weed have you been taking? Have you all forgot the recent Istanbul explosion? Those maniacs carried out a terror attack in the heart of Turkey which is being ruled by the CHP; their supposedly ally, and a poor 4 year old girl met her demise thxx to those fqers. Those ppl are on the verge of dividing the country and ppl are bitching about HUDA party
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My prediction is that neither Hüdapar will enter the Cumhur Alliance nor Hdp-tip will enter the Millet Alliance. However, hdp-tip voters will support Kılıçdaroğlu, Hüdapar and other local Kurdist parties and organizations will support Erdoğan. So both wings will fool their voters.
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While the co-chairs and leaders of the Hdp and even the central executive of the Pkk openly admit that the Hdp is the political apparatus of the Pkk and acts as its legal extension, legitimizing consultations with the Hdp through the example of Hüdapar is just to mock people's minds.
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It is obvious that people are traumatized by Akp. But what is never talked about is that in the election arithmetic formed by the US intervention in 2003, only 2 parties entered the Parliament. All other parties, Dsp, Mhp, Fp, Anap and Dyp were completely pushed out of the political arena. The post-2003 story started with a 2-party parliament. And 20 years later, when Akp is trying to be ousted from office by the cliques that brought it there, the only alternative is to put the supporting role in its story in front of us, this time as the main character.
Most people acknowledge that some factors have a deep penetration and influence on the Turkish political structure, but these same people assume that this big factor will act with the strategy of a 5 year old child.
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So, from the outside it looks like there is no way Mr. Erdogan is going to pull this off. Opposition candidate is ahead in the polls with 10%.
Or is it too early to be sure?
Or is it too early to be sure?
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It's too early. At this point, I don't take any of the polls seriously. There are two months for both sides to mess things up.
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Sorry but if you may explain that sentence since I couldnt comprehend it well as my English isnt that good
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In the 2018 polls, Erdoğan was shown at 45%. In fact, PIAR, whose study for the 2023-May elections is shared above, showed it as 39% in its 2018 election forecast. In short, I advise you not to trust polls in Turkiye. Not only because events can change direction quickly, but also because most of these polling companies tend to say what they want from whichever side they are funded by. It may even be an Akp strategy to make Akp's alliance look behind, they have done this many times, to consolidate the undecided voters (or to give the other side a sense of certain victory and reduce voter turnout), it may be a matter of psychological warfare to some extent.
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When Akp's story began, Akp was the lead and Chp was the supporting role. The 2002-2003 elections were one of the most deeply interfered by the US in Turkish political history.
At that time the election threshold was 10%. All the parties forming the parliament in 2018 were below the threshold.
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Hdp is already a terrorist and separatist party. Hüdapar is only worse, so relax.
We are on the way to becoming Afghanistan when we say we will become Iran. We will become Iraq and Syria at this rate.
If it were up to me, I would execute them all for treason, separatism, trying to abolish the constitution and overthrow the Republic.
Political parties are now a survival problem for our country. We must get rid of these parties as soon as possible with a proper administration and courts.
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In Turkiye, there is always a counter figure of betrayal for every ideological approach. So this understanding has always been a part of the Turkish political tradition. But very few people can see that if there is betrayal, it never come from one side. It is this whole picture that must come to an end and it should not be limited to Akp. Even, the parties that carried Turkish politics before 2003 have little to do with the parties that share the same signboards today btw. We need hard reset. To do this in a civil way, we need to stop defending what is offered to us and offer what we defend.
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Fact check:
AKP is in an alliance with Hüdapar, CHP is not in an alliance with HDP.
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And unrelated, to all sides:
The nation needs to heal, giving in to extremists and corrupt people will not lead to any healing.
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If it wasnt for HDP Imamoglu and Yavas wouldnt win in their muncipalities. So yes, there is a alliance between HDP and CHP.
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Hudapar are known for assasinating feminists. One of the few groups to actually fight off feminism with armed struggle. Pretty much rare actually to fight feminism with an armed struggle.
They also oppose pkk.
Their relationship with us Turks its like a love and hate one.
They seem to be a group which most people dont understand. They really do have aims of their own.
I do believe they want a Kurdistan ruled by Islamic law we only used them drive a wedge against pkk.
Welcome to Turkish politics where anything can be used as proxies.
Both sides have been courting Kurdish votes while selling out their own voterbase.
Kurdish Hezbollah was Hudapar military wing. Crazy how parties in Turkiye can even form their own military wing. Kurdish Hezbollah fought against the Turkish military. It is said they had some alleged links with Jitem.
No wonder the Turkish military is seen as the Leviathan. Only thing keeping peace and stability in the country.
Lots of aspects in Turkiye that makes me boggle my mind.
What makes them sinister do they support autonomy or independance. Hudapar since they oppose communism, socialism and lbgt seem to find common ground with the Turkish state.
Interesting how people call them far right but it seems they are a mix of right and left wing. Look how they call for Kurdish rights even try to paint as if the Turkish state is oppressing them. They may oppose hdp and the pkk but they use the same rehtoric.
Interesting times ahead. Politicians have put themselves into such a genius position. By allowing hdp and hudapar to even allow to have this much of a say.
I say this here a matter of time before the Turkish military intervene because the Politicians have royally fcked up including Recep Tayyip Erdogan that his own voterbase even supporters are now starting to feel alienated. Erdogan still believes his goodwill, will still make him win but I dont believe Turks are this stupid really.
They also oppose pkk.
Their relationship with us Turks its like a love and hate one.
They seem to be a group which most people dont understand. They really do have aims of their own.
I do believe they want a Kurdistan ruled by Islamic law we only used them drive a wedge against pkk.
Welcome to Turkish politics where anything can be used as proxies.
Both sides have been courting Kurdish votes while selling out their own voterbase.
Kurdish Hezbollah was Hudapar military wing. Crazy how parties in Turkiye can even form their own military wing. Kurdish Hezbollah fought against the Turkish military. It is said they had some alleged links with Jitem.
No wonder the Turkish military is seen as the Leviathan. Only thing keeping peace and stability in the country.
Lots of aspects in Turkiye that makes me boggle my mind.
What makes them sinister do they support autonomy or independance. Hudapar since they oppose communism, socialism and lbgt seem to find common ground with the Turkish state.
Interesting how people call them far right but it seems they are a mix of right and left wing. Look how they call for Kurdish rights even try to paint as if the Turkish state is oppressing them. They may oppose hdp and the pkk but they use the same rehtoric.
Interesting times ahead. Politicians have put themselves into such a genius position. By allowing hdp and hudapar to even allow to have this much of a say.
I say this here a matter of time before the Turkish military intervene because the Politicians have royally fcked up including Recep Tayyip Erdogan that his own voterbase even supporters are now starting to feel alienated. Erdogan still believes his goodwill, will still make him win but I dont believe Turks are this stupid really.
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Oh so thats what you mean
If thats the case, then you cant be more right and you cant be more wrong about the issue
It is without a doubt that the AKP's time is ending and even if they survive, then they at least need to learn a harsh lesson regarding the bullshit they have been doing recently. However, the real question is who is gonna replace Erdogan!? Kilicdaroglu isnt an answer
KK's policy of diversity seems nice on paper but later on will be catastrophic. Rn, CHP's alliance is composed of leftists, liberals, Nationalists, Terrorists (HDP), and Islamists. The problem in this alliance is that none of these can co-exist under the same umbrella. Therefore, when Erdogan gets kicked out, I expect a bloody fight for power! The CHP will try to take everything for itself while the HDP will just play with Turkish lives as if it is nothing; the iYi will start to absorb the AKP and pester the CHP to immediately initiate a parliamentary system in order to try and oust the CHP; however, the CHP is likely to resist and will probably find a 100 excuse to delay the process until they ensure that they obtain the necessary power to fulfill their own agenda and prolong their rule
The only one suffering in the middle is the Turkish citizen! The current scenario post Erdogan with the current alliance is a new Israel 2.0 and Iam sure you know about the current politicial condition in Israel rn; nd surprisingly, this is THE good outcome since the bad outcome will be a nation so divided that a possibility of internal unrest is soo high at this point that it may turn into an Iraq kind of scenario as @Baryshx stated before
That is why I was so shocked when I saw that Aksener rejoined the table of the 6 with KK as a candidate and even more shocked when I found out that the iYi has been sidelined from the decision-making process by making Imamoglu and Yavas as VP but not Aksener herself. This means that Aksener has been completely defeated during negotiations with the CHP and everything will be in the CHP's hands
