TR Politics

[CAN_TR]

Hüdapar is HDP's arch enemy, they are muslim Kurds instead of communist Armenians like HDP.

Yasin Börü was killed because he was a Hüdapar sympathiser. There a lot of clashes between Hüdapar and HDP.

Okay...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1634551425991692292

HDPians playing the leftist card, HÜDAPAR the Muslim card and the only ones who believe them even a bit are idiots with IQ below the pH level of water.

 

[Ravenman]

Ṣeyh Sayid wasnt a seperatist.

 

[CAN_TR]

Ṣeyh Sayid wasnt a seperatist.

That's why he was the leader of "Azadi" (a organization that attacked Turkish Gendarmerie/Military etc.) after Halid Beg Cibran (hanged 1925) he even was married to his sister...

Azadi was a British supported organization, after their failed rebellion they became a part of Xoybun and started the Ararat rebellion 1927.

 

[Xenon54]

That's why he was the leader of "Azadi" a organization that attacked Turkish Gendarmerie/Military etc. after Halid Beg Cibran (hanged 1925) he even was married his sister...

Azadi was a British supported organization, after their failed rebellion they became a part of Xoybun and started the Ararat rebellion 1927.

The same mentality opened cozmik oda to CIA agents back in 00's no wonder they cover people like seyh said.

 

[what]

So Hüdapar, the Turkish Hizbollah, has just joined the government coalition / election alliance.
Let's have a look at the election program of Hüdapar:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1634551425991692292

> The state system, autonomy and federation should be discussed.

> The inscription "Happy to be a Turk" should be erased.

> Kurdish should be the language of education and recognised as the official language.

> Sheikh Said's relatives should be apologised to.

 

[Rodeo]

So Hüdapar, the Turkish Hizbollah, has just joined the government coalition / election alliance.
Let's have a look at the election program of Hüdapar:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1634551425991692292

> The state system, autonomy and federation should be discussed.

> The inscription "Happy to be a Turk" should be erased.

> Kurdish should be the language of education and recognised as the official language.

> Sheikh Said's relatives should be apologised to.

To add,

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1634553242490109961

Education Program of Hüda Par, who joined the Government's Alliance:

• The Qur'an, Arabic, hadith, catechism and siyer courses should be taught as a course starting from the first grade of primary education.

• Compulsory co-education should be abandoned, and families who wish should be able to enroll their children in boys or girls' schools at all levels of education, including higher education.

• Our old madrasahs should be restored and repaired, and the time spent in madrasah education should be counted as compulsory education.

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It's consoling to know that their voting rate is below 0.5%

 

[CAN_TR]

Sehy Said's brother, Sehy Abdurrahman also attacked Turkish garrisons in Elazig (Palu) and Malatya in order to avenge him.

A family full of feudal, backwards terrorists, actually most of these Rebellions were because of modernization and anti feudal/tribal politics of Central Goverment in Ankara.

 

[what]

It's consoling to know that their voting rate is below 0.5%

It wont have an effect on the election results probably, but how low do you have to get to work with these people?
MHP in an election alliance with a group that wants to establish a federation, Kurdish language teaching in school and on top of that remove anything Turkish because its not religious enough.

 

[Rodeo]

It wont have an effect on the election results probably, but how low do you have to get to work with these people?

A very desperate move. One might call it pathetic even. Not worth the candle.

 

[Sanchez]

MHP have had an effect on Erdogan and AKP. So did Soylu after he joined. Everytime AKP had to seek new allies, allies had a bigger effect on how AKP rules rather than vice versa.

Don't get mistaken, if Erdogan wins, Hüda will have a say in how the country is run and will get concessions like all others.

Allah yardımcımız olsun.

 

[Kedikesenfare]

Sehy Said's brother, Sehy Abdurrahman also attacked Turkish garrisons in Elazig (Palu) and Malatya in order to avenge him.

A family full of feudal, backwards terrorists, actually most of these Rebellions were because of modernization and anti feudal/tribal politics of Central Goverment in Ankara.

Ṣeyh Sayid wasnt a seperatist.

 

[Lool]

MHP have had an effect on Erdogan and AKP. So did Soylu after he joined. Everytime AKP had to seek new allies, allies had a bigger effect on how AKP rules rather than vice versa.

Don't get mistaken, if Erdogan wins, Hüda will have a say in how the country is run and will get concessions like all others.

Allah yardımcımız olsun.

Agreed
Just like how the CHP will give massive concessions to the HDP; the AKP will give concessions to HUDA party as well

However, what you all fail to notice is that the concessions that the CHP will make will be way more larger and more significant than the ones that the AKP will make and the reason for that is the significance of the HDP; the HDP alone carries 7-11% of votes while the HUDA party has even less than 0.5%. Moreover, if the CHP wins and they did promise to change the system into parliamentary one, then expect a massive fight between the CHP and iYi for power and this translates to the increase in both power and importance of HDP for the CHP in order to maintain its power post 2023

 

[Lool]

Agreed
Just like how the CHP will give massive concessions to the HDP; the AKP will give concessions to HUDA party as well

However, what you all fail to notice is that the concessions that the CHP will make will be way more larger and more significant than the ones that the AKP will make and the reason for that is the significance of the HDP; the HDP alone carries 7-11% of votes while the HUDA party has even less than 0.5%. Moreover, if the CHP wins and they did promise to change the system into parliamentary one, then expect a massive fight between the CHP and iYi for power and this translates to the increase in both power and importance of HDP for the CHP in order to maintain its power post 2023

I mean one of HUDA's policies is to cut off relations with Israel, do you think Erdogan would actually cut ties when Israel is surmountable for the Mavi Vatan policy?

 

[Asena_great]

So Hüdapar, the Turkish Hizbollah, has just joined the government coalition / election alliance.
Let's have a look at the election program of Hüdapar:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1634551425991692292

> The state system, autonomy and federation should be discussed.

> The inscription "Happy to be a Turk" should be erased.

> Kurdish should be the language of education and recognised as the official language.

> Sheikh Said's relatives should be apologised to.

bir yat aşağıya deseydin tam olurdu. im angry with ümit ozdağ what he did with yavaş and ince was a mistake they could have go to election with ince which would gave them better chance now both are apart. this is stupid

 

[Asena_great]

in a case of erdo vs kilştar vs ince i know whom to vote

 

[CAN_TR]

Ṣeyh Sayid wasnt a seperatist.

You already said the same with your second account, don't try too hard...

Attacks Turkish Gendarmerie/Military outposts.
Is a leader of seperatist movement named Azadi.
Participates in two rebellions.

But yeah not a seperatist...

 

[dBSPL]

Hüdapar's vote is below 1% but its effect on the alliance (loss of votes) will be more than the party's vote. It is not possible to explain why such a small party is important for alliances with its vote share. Previously, Iyip leader Akşener has repeatedly met with this party to attract it to the Millet alliance, and even Chp's MPs known to be close to Hdp(or worse, mullahs) went to Hüdapar's rallies to support them and shared photos. They did not get any result, but the Cumhur alliance added this party to its alliance 2 months before the election.

Now, some Akp supporters, who criticized this Millet alliance move in the past, are trying to develop some arguments against the rhetoric of the Millet alliance today. As like, It is the only party fighting against the Pkk in the region, it is Yasin Börü's party, it does not fight against the state like the Pkk, miş muş, get over it... This party's ideology is clear, its bloody ties in the past are clear. Even today, if its financial sources are investigated, it is likely to reveal the support of tribal leaders, like Barzani, who survived with Turkiye's support and then spat on the bread he received.

The choice put before the Turkish people is either to vote for the political wing of the PKK or its blood feud ex-Hizbollah. We will soon come to terms with those who have inflicted this on this people.

 

[YeşilVatan]

I remember reading Hezbollah used to cut girls' legs with razors when they just wore regular jeans in Diyerbakır. ISIS level idiocy and zealotry.

Both AKP and the opposition are determined to find how much votes they can lose. It would be truly hilarious if it wasn't so destructive.

 

[Lool]

Hüdapar's vote is below 1% but its effect on the alliance (loss of votes) will be more than the party's vote. It is not possible to explain why such a small party is important for alliances with its vote share. Previously, Iyip leader Akşener has repeatedly met with this party to attract it to the Millet alliance, and even Chp's MPs known to be close to Hdp(or worse, mullahs) went to Hüdapar's rallies to support them and shared photos. They did not get any result, but the Cumhur alliance added this party to its alliance 2 months before the election.

Now, some Akp supporters, who criticized this Millet alliance move in the past, are trying to develop some arguments against the rhetoric of the Millet alliance today. As like, It is the only party fighting against the Pkk in the region, it is Yasin Börü's party, it does not fight against the state like the Pkk, miş muş, get over it... This party's ideology is clear, its bloody ties in the past are clear. Even today, if its financial sources are investigated, it is likely to reveal the support of tribal leaders, like Barzani, who survived with Turkiye's support and then spat on the bread he received.

The choice put before the Turkish people is either to vote for the political wing of the PKK or its blood feud ex-Hizbollah. We will soon come to terms with those who have inflicted this on this people.

So who do you think will win in the end?

 

[Bürküt]

I did little research on Zafer party and realized one of our experienced members here carry the party symbol in his profile picture.

Initially this ümit Özdağ guy looks kind of scary to me.

"In June he traveled to the border province of Hatay to plant a “symbolic mine” on the border purportedly to prevent the crossing of Syrian refugees into Turkey"

Here is an article I found,

By Idil Karsit, a freelance journalist and researcher based in Istanbul.


"Maps of Turkey and portraits of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, the modern republic’s founder, decorate the walls of Umit Ozdag’s office at the Victory Party’s headquarters in Ankara. One stands out. It includes Syria and Iraq, colored in green and red. Turkish cities with the highest numbers of Syrian refugees are colored in yellow, and pro-Kurdish areas in the east, dominated by the Peoples’ Democratic Party (HDP), are in purple.
According to Ozdag, yellow hordes of some 3.7 million Syrian refugees in Turkey will eventually outnumber Turks in the arid south, and the region will soon fall into a civil war exacerbated by the climate crisis. Meanwhile, a purple tide of Kurds from the east will attack Turkey, joining the red and green forces of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) rushing to their aid from Syria and Iraq. The 61-year-old politician carries a smaller version of this map to his prime-time TV interviews, warning ordinary Turks of a “silent invasion.”

Ozdag founded his political party in August 2021. The Victory Party is the latest addition to a long tradition of ultranationalist movements in Turkey. But unlike its predecessors, it has adopted hostility toward immigration as its primary cause, introducing a new brand of far-right politics.
Following a similar pattern to Italy’s League, the Victory Party advocates for welfare policies for native members of Turkish society while reducing access for outsiders. But the party takes its nativist rhetoric one step further, claiming that refugees are being deliberately settled in Turkey to destabilize the country.

The Victory Party’s founding manifesto has numerous references to modern Turkey’s founder Ataturk and his nationalist revolution after World War I. Ozdag defines the mass refugee influx from the Middle East to Turkey as “strategically engineered migration”—a renewed imperialist plot, resurfacing a century after the republic’s inception.

Only this time, Ozdag suggests, the imperialists will not use a “rental Greek army” to upend Turkey’s sovereignty; they will instead install a Sunni Arab population of refugees to undermine Turks’ national identity."



Does it rightfully/correctly summarize his ideology?
I would like to be educated more on the matter.

Also, @Ryder @Ripley @what et al

If I remember correctly, his father was an important officer at the head of the junta that carried out the first military coup in Turkey.Later, these soldiers were exiled. And he was born in Japan. Guess what a sharp nationalist ideology he had.