TR Politics

[what]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1633855827202170880

As everyone can see, both sides will once again fight for the HDP votes. Its a necessity to win the elections.
The question is how this will be received by the nationalistic junior partners of the AKP (MHP) and CHP (IYI).

 

[dBSPL]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1633855827202170880

As everyone can see, both sides will once again fight for the HDP votes. Its a necessity to win the elections.
The question is how this will be received by the nationalistic junior partners of the AKP (MHP) and CHP (IYI).

Yes, this is exactly the situation. One side is trying to get the brother of the terrorist leader Öcalan to say 'O pkk sympathizers, look, solution process is over but they are actually not that nationalist as you think' during the election week, (there is even more: why isn't the Hdp shut down? They didn't even cut the election funds. While the party called Hdp is involved in so many crimes that it cannot continue its political life in any country in Europe, what is happening in Turkiye should not be called political freedom) while the other side is at the point of a new multi-identity constitution, a new 'democratic' state order and another solution process one election later.

Kılıcdaroğlu promises that Demirtaş will be released from prison. The person who was the pkk-wing political pillar of the trench warfare and the subsequent attempt of a major uprising and the Syrianization of Turkiye is no different from any of spokesperson of a terrorist organization, even there is more importancy. In other words, the logic that they sided with the spokesperson of the big terrorist head, so we should sided with the small terrorist head is not pragmatism but just political blindness.

In Anatolia, in rural areas, when you step away from social media, the profiles of the people you see are very different. The real vote losers for Akp are not 'halalization', making the cake bigger, or not liberation, but the hesitations especially in the Syrian operations, the 5 million refugees trapped inside the country due to the failure to create safe zones and clear all borders of terrorists. The fact that these people are mostly Erdoğan supporters is related to the fact that the nationalists in our country have been shattered and no alternative has risen to fill this vacuum. While even the steps taken under Erdoğan's leadership were timid and slow, the counter alliance aiming to bring down this government should have better evaluated these issues. The millet alliance has gone back too far, emulating the AKP of 2003, when in fact it should not have gone back that far. Many of rural people labeled as ignorant has something to say about the sense of encirclement in the region, Azerbaijan's struggle for existence in the Caucasus, and even about the blue homeland.

These mistakes,hesitates, petty political calculations are bringing to the end of the political life of the main elements that make up both wings of the current political order. Everyone promises to change some things, but the people will initiate real and fundamental change. Wait until after the elections and mark my words. The current attitude of the Chp's brain-trust does not promising absolute victory, but a pseudo-victory that will lead to a heavier defeat than defeat.

 

[what]

I'm afraid that with the current situation with all the censorship and monopolization of power/media, any contestant will have to make compromises in who to lay in bed with in order to restore law & order in the country.

I hope that alliances and coalitions will look different in the future, when elections can finally be held fair and free again. But until then, that's the only chance.

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Turkish opposition alliance plans to put Babacan in charge of economy -sources

Turkey's main opposition alliance plans to make former deputy prime minister Ali Babacan a vice president responsible for the economy if it wins a presidential election set for May 14, four senior sources in the alliance told Reuters on Friday.

www.reuters.com

While Ex-AKP, he at least was competent at his job.

 

[Afif]

Then davutoglu must be prime Minister again. ( Or another vice president, whatever)
I loved some of his academic works back then!( when I was a teenager )

 

[Rodeo]

Then davutoglu must be prime Minister again. ( Or another vice president, whatever)
I loved some of his academic works back then!( when I was a teenager )

His smirk is the eeriest thing in the world. God save us if he becomes the Foreign Minister again.

 

[-Sinan-]

1. Silahlı kuvvetler ve güvenlik güçlerimizin yıllara sari ihtiyaç projeksiyonlarını özel sektör ile paylaşarak, KOBİ’ler başta olmak üzere savunma sanayii şirketlerimizin geleceğe yönelik yatırım yapabilmelerinin önünü açacak, ana sistem ve alt sistem bazında birbirlerini destekleyen, geliştiren ve büyüten bir ekosistem yaratacağız.
2. Türk Silahlı Kuvvetlerini Güçlendirme Vakfı ve bağlı şirketlerini yeniden yapılandıracak, Vakıf yönetimini siyasi etkilerden arındıracak, Vakıf kaynaklarının kullanımını şeffaf bir şekilde kamuoyu ile paylaşacağız.
3. Savunma sanayiinde faaliyet gösteren vakıf şirketlerinin, denetlenebilir, ölçülebilir, performans ve verimlilik değerlendirmesine açık, liyakat esaslı, stratejik ve profesyonel yönetime uygun ilkeler çerçevesinde çalışmasını sağlayacağız.
4. Vakıf Şirketlerinin tedarikte çoğunlukla tek kaynak olarak görevlendirilmesi nedeniyle ortaya çıkan/çıkacak mahsurları giderecek, küçük-orta girişimcilerin de yer alabileceği projeler ve teşviklerle gelecek nesil teknolojilerinin gelişimini destekleyeceğiz.
5. MKEK’nu yeniden yapılandıracak, patlayıcı, konvansiyonel silah ve mühimmatta yurtdışı bağımlılığı sıfırlayacağız.
6. Büyük tedarik projelerini, kuvvet yapısı ve kuvvet planlamasını bozmayacak şekilde somut güvenlik ortam ve ihtiyacına uygun olarak, ülkenin dış politikası ile çelişmeyen bir biçimde yöneteceğiz.
7. Geliştirme takvimleri sürekli sarkan Milli Muharip Uçak, Jet Eğitim Uçağı, Altay Tankı, TF 2000 Firkateyni, 4G ve 5G baz istasyonu ve ağ alt yapısı, askeri gözetleme ve iletişim uyduları ve benzeri projelerin gerçekçi şekilde hayata geçirilmesi ve tamamen yerlileştirilmesi için ayrı ve özel bir bütçe oluşturacak, gerekli uzman personel tahsisini gerçekleştireceğiz
8. Altay Tankı’nda motor tedarik sürecini tamamlayacak, buna paralel olarak hava, kara ve deniz platformlarında büyük ihtiyaç duyulan yerli motor çalışmalarını başlatacak, yerli uçak ve tank çalışmalarını büyük bir seferberlikle sürdürecek ve başarıya ulaşt

When?

There should have been a schedule or a deadline with these statements. What are you going to say if you don't succeed in 5 years ? Or you gonna say "Dıj Güjler" like akp retards ?

 

[Baryshx]

Right now, the most important party in the country is İyip, no alliance can come to power without İyip's support, no alliance can get a majority in parliament. So no alliance can negotiate with hdp. İyip should make good use of this...

 

[Lool]

When?

There should have been a schedule or a deadline with these statements. What are you going to say if you don't succeed in 5 years ? Or you gonna say "Dıj Güjler" like akp retards ?

Just like the CHP's "special budget" they say. It is so funny since they cant even givean approximate % at thevery least for how much they are going to provide

Normally, if history and other modern day countries' acts is anything to by, then you normally end up with either subpar or no performance or action regarding such promises at all

A) Donald Trump, former US president, wanted to build his idiotic border wall and have the Canadians pay the whole cost of it without explaining how..... it ended up with the US suffering budget cuts for the sake of this wall

B) El-Sisi, current Egyptian president, promised (in 2014) the ppl to fix all of Egypt's problems in only 2 years without explaining how on earth he would do that...... and rn, in 2023 which is 9 years later, Egypt his suffering from the worst economic crises ever experienced under his administration

C) Mohammed Bin Salman, current crown prince of KSA, promised the ppl to build a majestic city throughtout 3 countries and continents, called NEOM, without even explaining how he would do that..... and till this day, nothing of worth had been done other then just a few promos and ads as if it is some sort of a scam

D) Liz Truss, former Prime Minister of UK, promised to improve the living conditions of the ppl in a small time frame without even having the logical backing or sense to support her idiotic plan..... and the result was thay even a cabbage outdid her in terms of lifespan (if you know what I mean)

Normally politicians have no plan nor desire to fulfill critical promises but needs it to look good on paper to fool the average voter whether in Egypt, UK, USA, Turkey and any other nation. Honestly, dont be surprised to find out 2 years later that projects like the Altay engine program has been scrapped for whatever bullshit reason and Turkey started re-using German engines again.

If you read their promises, you will fin out that they promised a "special budget" for Hurjet even though it wasnt a state sponsored program in the first place; which is supposed to be a common fact considering the dozens of public interviews Temil Kotil had performed. However, you can expect nothing less from the new heroes of Turkey who wrote a 244 page promises without knowing such a small yet crucial fact. In other words, as long as they can trick the average Turkish voter to vote for them, then all is fair and well

This is politics after all

 

[-Sinan-]

f you read their promises, you will fin out that they promised a "special budget" for Hurjet even though it wasnt a state sponsored program in the first place; which is supposed to be a common fact considering the dozens of public interviews Temil Kotil had performed.

You skipped the part of "Seperate". They said "Seperate and Special funding " for those specific projects.

I don't want to defend politicians, i only want to critisize them. But let's not twist words.

 

[Lool]

I must say
The CHP isnt pulling anything back with the propaganda. Now that their prospects fo winning the elections are higher than ever, they are betting everything on it. He is trying to bring as much votes as possible

Translation:
The tent where Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu will stay in the earthquake zone:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1634281587842994185

Even though they are the same man, loool

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1634283555617480704

 

[-Sinan-]

I must say
The CHP isnt pulling anything back with the propaganda. Now that their prospects fo winning the elections are higher than ever, they are betting everything on it. He is trying to bring as much votes as possible

Translation:
The tent where Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu will stay in the earthquake zone:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1634281587842994185

Even though they are the same man, loool

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1634283555617480704

Yeah, though it will score points. They all do it.

Notice the dining table at the back.

 

[dBSPL]

Zafer Party Leader Ümit Özdağ announced that their Presidential candidate is Sinan Oğan. May it be auspicious for our country.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Zafer Party Leader Ümit Özdağ announced that their Presidential candidate is Sinan Oğan. May it be auspicious for our country.

Why not Umit Ozdağ himself ?!

 

[YeşilVatan]

I will never vote for Erdoğan because:

• Ergenekon-Balyoz sham trials
• So-called peace process (açılım)
• Mismanagement of economy
• Massive nepotism
• I don't like his mustache
• He's from Rize

I will never vote for Kılıçdaroğlu because:

• He's gonna lose anyways
• Ekmeleddin scandal
• Presence of people like Kanas Canan and Xezgin Tanrıkulu
• He seems sinister
• I don't like his mustache
• He's from Tunceli

As aforemented, my course of action will be drawing male genitalia on the ballot. These candidates deserve that, and nothing more.

 

[Ravenman]

Go to hell with both AKP and CHP.

Both are like Ying and Yang, our own Democrats and Republicans. Both are corrupt nepotists and liars.

I dont see any potential president. I was thinking of Muharrem Ince, but i saw a video on Youtube from years ago where he was speaking at a podium and a old fan took a picture with him and right after that both of his bodyguards grabbed the fan (old man) and throwed him very hard in the crowd like a bag of potatoes.

 

[TheInsider]

HUDAPAR joined AKPs alliance. HUDAPAR is basically an Islamic HDP. The difference is HUDAPAR is pro sharia while HDP is secular.

 

[Lool]

HUDAPAR joined AKPs alliance. HUDAPAR is basically an Islamic HDP. The difference is HUDAPAR is pro sharia while HDP is secular.

AKP is truly becoming desperate
They are on their knees and none of these parties will help
I even heard rumors that the welfare party will join the alliance; dont know if such rumors are true or not

 

[TheInsider]

AKP is truly becoming desperate
They are on their knees and none of these parties will help
I even heard rumors that the welfare party will join the alliance; dont know if such rumors are true or not

Yeah, Welfare Party is in negotiations with AKP. They are putting forward several conditions for joining.

 

[Ravenman]

Hüdapar is HDP's arch enemy, they are muslim Kurds instead of communist Armenians like HDP.

Yasin Börü was killed because he was a Hüdapar sympathiser. There a lot of clashes between Hüdapar and HDP.

 

[Afif]

Zafer Party Leader Ümit Özdağ announced that their Presidential candidate is Sinan Oğan. May it be auspicious for our country.

I did little research on Zafer party and realized one of our experienced members here carry the party symbol in his profile picture.

Initially this ümit Özdağ guy looks kind of scary to me.

"In June he traveled to the border province of Hatay to plant a “symbolic mine” on the border purportedly to prevent the crossing of Syrian refugees into Turkey"

Here is an article I found,

By Idil Karsit, a freelance journalist and researcher based in Istanbul.


"Maps of Turkey and portraits of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, the modern republic’s founder, decorate the walls of Umit Ozdag’s office at the Victory Party’s headquarters in Ankara. One stands out. It includes Syria and Iraq, colored in green and red. Turkish cities with the highest numbers of Syrian refugees are colored in yellow, and pro-Kurdish areas in the east, dominated by the Peoples’ Democratic Party (HDP), are in purple.
According to Ozdag, yellow hordes of some 3.7 million Syrian refugees in Turkey will eventually outnumber Turks in the arid south, and the region will soon fall into a civil war exacerbated by the climate crisis. Meanwhile, a purple tide of Kurds from the east will attack Turkey, joining the red and green forces of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) rushing to their aid from Syria and Iraq. The 61-year-old politician carries a smaller version of this map to his prime-time TV interviews, warning ordinary Turks of a “silent invasion.”

Ozdag founded his political party in August 2021. The Victory Party is the latest addition to a long tradition of ultranationalist movements in Turkey. But unlike its predecessors, it has adopted hostility toward immigration as its primary cause, introducing a new brand of far-right politics.
Following a similar pattern to Italy’s League, the Victory Party advocates for welfare policies for native members of Turkish society while reducing access for outsiders. But the party takes its nativist rhetoric one step further, claiming that refugees are being deliberately settled in Turkey to destabilize the country.

The Victory Party’s founding manifesto has numerous references to modern Turkey’s founder Ataturk and his nationalist revolution after World War I. Ozdag defines the mass refugee influx from the Middle East to Turkey as “strategically engineered migration”—a renewed imperialist plot, resurfacing a century after the republic’s inception.

Only this time, Ozdag suggests, the imperialists will not use a “rental Greek army” to upend Turkey’s sovereignty; they will instead install a Sunni Arab population of refugees to undermine Turks’ national identity."



Does it rightfully/correctly summarize his ideology?
I would like to be educated more on the matter.

Also, @Ryder @Ripley @what et al