TR Politics

[Corvus]

majority of Turks are intellectually and mentally below average

What is "the average" here? How did you calculate it?

 

[Deliorman]

What is "the average" here? How did you calculate it?

Probably the best measurement for intelligence is your level of education. It has it's flaws but there isn't a better way to calculate something like this for big masses of people.

According to the statistics like 15- 17% of Turks know English (even less people know any other foreign language too)... Of those 17% a huge part is people who are at very basic levels of proficiency. So like 90% of the population has no real access to information, to foreign news sources, to foreign knowledge and know how.

You will tell me what is the percentage of people in Turkey with a Secondary and higher secondary education? What about these with a bachelors degree etc?

This is the statistics from 10 years ago for those between 25 and 34 but let's say that now it is better:

What if you include those over 40-50-60 years old etc? You start to see the picture.

Finishing high school is something pretty average when it comes to education and I am not even talking about the quality of secondary schools where Turkey is behind developed and many developing countries too.

Yes Turkey is below the world average in education and hence in intelligence too... Or at least behind the part of the world that matters.

 

[Rooxbar]

WTF is happening in that country man? Literally want to jump on a plane and go to Taksim and protest on my own. Like everywhere I look my beautiful country is on the same league as North Korea, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, etc. And then there's a not-so-ignorable minority of people defending this shit; anybody can defend anything, but the way they defend it shows that they have no clue why their arguments are retarded at all, which means they are retarded and have no clue also. I am so fucking angry.

 

[Corvus]

Probably the best measurement for intelligence is your level of education. It has it's flaws but there isn't a better way to calculate something like this for big masses of people.

According to the statistics like 15- 17% of Turks know English (even less people know any other foreign language too)... Of those 17% a huge part is people who are at very basic levels of proficiency. So like 90% of the population has no real access to information, to foreign news sources, to foreign knowledge and know how.

You will tell me what is the percentage of people in Turkey with a Secondary and higher secondary education? What about these with a bachelors degree etc?

This is the statistics from 10 years ago for those between 25 and 34 but let's say that now it is better:

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What if you include those over 40-50-60 years old etc? You start to see the picture.

Finishing high school is something pretty average when it comes to education and I am not even talking about the quality of secondary schools where Turkey is behind developed and many developing countries too.

Yes Turkey is below the world average in education and hence in intelligence too... Or at least behind the part of the world that matters.

The statistic you shared is from the OECD. It only includes 38 countries and these countries are rather developed countries. (Actually, even Türkiye being in OECD proves that we're not as bad as you think)

I'm pretty confident that Türkiye is above the average in everything you mentioned, considering the world is not just about OECD or developed countries.

Not saying we're the best. It is just factually not correct that we're below the average.

 

[Sanchez]

The statistic you shared is from the OECD. It only includes 38 countries and these countries are rather developed countries. (Actually, even Türkiye being in OECD proves that we're not as bad as you think)

I'm pretty confident that Türkiye is above the average in everything you mentioned, considering the world is not just about OECD or developed countries.

Not saying we're the best. It is just factually not correct that we're below the average.

Eh, these are the countries Turkey trade with and compete against the most in most venues. Business, trade, economics, building, sports, anything. Of course Turkey shouldn't be compared to Sub Saharan, Central Asian or Latin American countries. It's a country of 85 million with near 1T GDP. OECD is our league. There's a reason why every other developing country wants to join the group.

 

[Deliorman]

The statistic you shared is from the OECD. It only includes 38 countries and these countries are rather developed countries. (Actually, even Türkiye being in OECD proves that we're not as bad as you think)

I'm pretty confident that Türkiye is above the average in everything you mentioned, considering the world is not just about OECD or developed countries.

Not saying we're the best. It is just factually not correct that we're below the average.

This is why I wrote "the part of the world that matters" in the end. Because nobody gives a sheit about what happens in Afghanistan, Congo, Haiti, Belize or Tonga etc. If you don't want to compare yourself with the best and you are happy to be average, then good for you but with this kind of mentality Turkey will never achieve anything great in any sphere... You see it in the Olympics too but there Turkey can't even compete with Third world countries.

 

[Asena_great]

 

[Asena_great]

iraq parliament reduced marriage age from 15 tp 9

@Ryder watch this video

 

[I_Love_F16]

iraq parliament reduced marriage age from 15 tp 9

@Ryder watch this video

Disgusting.

 

[Afif]

iraq parliament reduced marriage age from 15 tp 9

@Ryder watch this video

They didn't Yet.

The bill is proposed by the Coordination Framework, a coalition of conservative Shiite Islamist parties.

In Iraq, a bill could legalize child marriage

Introduced in parliament by a coalition of Shiite conservative parties, an amendment to a longstanding progressive law could significantly roll back the rights of women and children.

www.lemonde.fr

One should note, age of marriage across vast majority muslims countries are in between 16-18. That is more or less standard rulling by sunni schools of jurisprudence today.

‘Historic’ fatwa against early marriage

Summit also seeks ways to protect a predicted 50 million girls at risk of genital mutilation

international.la-croix.com

I remember, digging into this for an academic paper that three of us were writing. I gathered various original source materials back then.

 

[UkroTurk]

Yes it is great when 40 years old man takes 15-16 years old girl. There are a lot of examples 60-70 years old perverts buy 16years old girls.

If both girl and boy are under 18, this law context should allow underage marriage.

 

[Anastasius]

It's not just Muslim countries, across most nations the age of consent is between 14-18. Forget countries, you can have age of consent varying by state.

Germany, Italy, Austria and Portugal for example all have it at 14. There are even exceptions going as low as 12 if both the boy and the girl are under 18.

 

[Scott Summers]

No matter if you are religious of not. If you are a Turk, you are the enemy.

Look how threat their own mayor when he benefits Turkey.

New York mayor, suspected of corrupt ties with Turkey and Azerbaijan, hit with new subpoenas

Adams confirmed receipt of the subpoenas...

news.am

 

[Timur]

It's not just Muslim countries, across most nations the age of consent is between 14-18. Forget countries, you can have age of consent varying by state.

Germany, Italy, Austria and Portugal for example all have it at 14. There are even exceptions going as low as 12 if both the boy and the girl are under 18.

without marriage its even ok 9 and 9 or 10, 10 and 10 or 12, 11 and 12, 11 and 14 nada! 12 and 15 nono! 15 and 18 nono.. but ok if 15 and 17... dont ask this logic..

also europe wants to build up kindergarden (and younger) whith masturbation rooms.. and more.. things are going weird..

 

[Asena_great]

without marriage its even ok 9 and 9 or 10, 10 and 10 or 12, 11 and 12, 11 and 14 nada! 12 and 15 nono! 15 and 18 nono.. but ok if 15 and 17... dont ask this logic..

also europe wants to build up kindergarden (and younger) whith masturbation rooms.. and more.. things are going weird..

folks this is the answer when Vicdan and iman crash to one another vicdan says one thing but iman says another thing and people go mental

 

[Asena_great]

every organization whether its Fetö or PKK has 5 branch to operate

1) finance : in sector is divided into 2 branch legal and illegal.
in illegal PKK use drug, human trafficking, prostitution and protection money in order to make money.
in legal branch PKK use legitimate business in order to make money or use their business to money laundering remember people in this branch wont revealed themselves the never break the law and secretly support PKK.

2) thinking room : this is were false academians (lawyers doctors etc) perpared theises for PKK to act up on they always hide their true nature never revealed them in order to keep themselves hidden. currently they are very active in europe to find any path to demonized and isolate turks in Europe the recent bozkurt işareti was one of their handy work. their famous example is şebnem korur fincancı. a former professor who aided adnan oktar pedophile sex tarkat in ergenekon and balyoz trail against against adil serdar saçan former head of combating organized crime. depside medical evidence showed members of oktat's tarikat wasnt tortured she vouch in court that the evidence do show they were tortured. you probably remember her when she said TSK used chemical weapons Against PKK in afrin in order to damage turkey's reputation

3) intelligence and counter intelligence : in case of Fetö they had people inside but in case of PKK they recive it from enemies of turkey mainly westerns countries

4) execution branch (icra) : anyone who is name and face is known to you are in icra there are 2 branches legal and illegal. the legal branch are from HDP members of parliament to PKK sympathizer in west who is lobbying against turkey from actor/ actress in movies who made propaganda against turkey to singers who sing for PKK like aynur doğan. from people who made documentary for PKK like can dündar to so called journalist who made documentary to journalist who act against TSK in ergenekon and balyoz trail such as mehmet baransu. the illegal branch are the PKK terrorist who are fighting in mountains. the purpose of this branch is do damage as much as possible

5) the core members : the core members are the one that act like glue to connect other 4 branches the person in finance will never know the identity of the guy in thinking room or intelligence / country intelligence. they received thesis from thinking room and choose the best path then send the selected plan and the money from finance branch to execution (icra) where the plan gets executed. like i said people in other 4 branch dont know each other it is the core members who distribute money and plan for the execution branch

şebnem korur fincancı former professor who aided adnan oktar's sex tarikat and testfied aginst adil serdar saçan who was head of combating organized crime and about to arrest adnan oktar. although the medical evidence suggest there was no torture she in court said evidence says adil serdar saçan committed torture against members of adnan oktar tarikat. later adil serdar saçan prove his innocents but he was removed from his position as head of combating organized crime

şebnem korur fincancı useing her possition as professor and the Chief Medical Officer to blackened name of TSK by saying TSK used chemical weapons in afrin aginst PKK

Ekrem İmamoğlu and Özgür Özel in support of şebnem korur fincancı
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aynur doğan a singer who sing for PKK trying to improve PKK image in europ

her concert where he wants freedom for öcalan

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mehmet baransu arrested after he caused enough damage during ergenekon balyoz and 28 şubat trail as well as opening of kosmik oda

mehmet baransu and his bagged full of forged document against army which started ergenekon balyoz and 28 şubat trails

mehmet baransu and his başörtüsü wife

PKK propaganda movie about esat oktay yildiran in order to blacked his name none of the scene in this move is real

back in 90s JITEM attacked all the 5 branches of PKK take note that only the execution (icra) branch of PKK commited crime other branchs were supported PKK secretly nerveless they didn't committed crime JItem targeted them then the so called enlightened leftist and islamist journalists who do PKK propaganda in television and keep accusing army that they couldn't eliminated PKK then start targeting JITEM. by the 2002 PKK was dead and AKP revived it during peace process and now CHP , continuing it where AKP left

arif doğan the founder of JITEM talks about a Kurdish child killed by PKK which moved him so much to create JITEM in order to combat PKK

arif doğan talks about one time that he was gone on mission for so long when he came home his daughter couldn't recognize him and he miss his time with his daughter in a way that she almost grow up without a father

here in video above arif doğan talk about his journey on combating PKK. later he said i was stupid i should have sit behind my desk and receive my salary like other officers instead of creating JITEM and combating PKK now he was going to jail at the end of his life by tayyipçi fetöcu iktidar of AKP islamist government

@Ryder read this post instead of listing to your tarikat şeyh who bad mouth the army

 

[Asena_great]

That's text book example of radicalism.

Punishing your family for your radicalism is a horrible idea but that's what you suggested

he or his family are not PKK rats and yes there should be a punishment for PKK terrorist families at very least the right to vote and get elected need to be taken away from them more over we can prevent them to received education in government schools and university as well as banning them from government hospitals also banning them from ever entering governmental jobs

every one knows selahattin demirtaş as political branch of PKK what fewer people know is the fact that his older brother Nurettin Demirtaş is PKK terrorist who is a manager in kandil

Nurettin Demirtaş supported suicide bombing in which several turkish police die he later state that he wish he also was a suicide bomber and his younger brother is member of parliament who refuse to call PKK a terrorist organiation and once said he will erect statue of Abdullah öcalan. why we allowed brother of terrorist to become member of parliament whom btw openly defends them

Erlik sharing the dialog between selahattin demirtaş and abdullah öcalan a must watch video

another example is omer öcalan nephew of abdullah öcalan. he supported importing 13 millions of illegal aliens he said these aliens will start a civil war and when TSK is dealing with them we can break apart Turkey with the help of US soldiers. why should such person should be allowd to become member of parliament

and Dilek Öcalan who is doing PKK rally with abdullah öcalan pictures. why should such person should be allowed to become member of parliament ??

Bahoz Özdemir a PKK terrorist and son of Mahmut Özdemir municipal of HDP. Mahmut Özdemir later said my son is dead but i have other sons

mete çetinel a JÖH commando who participate in handek operation explains in full detailed how Kurdish AKP governor's treasons ( preventing security forces to act in time and give PKK to entrench itself ) and HDP municipality treasons ( from municipality's heavy machine that dig tranches to the food receipt that prove PKK terrorists ordered food with municipality bank account from giving detailed map of city which include map of doors in each apartment opens form left or right and brain washing kurdish youth and send them to Syria for training by black water by our tax payer money ) and CHP kurdish member of parliament ( who start a psychological war and called our soldiers murderer ) lead to handek operations and casualties in

@Corvus the question is why you are get triggered when @CAN_TR suggesting that the families that produced PKK terrorist should get punished as well ??

 

[Asena_great]

meanwhile recently Soylu i gave 2.5 million Syrians citizenship otherwise Erdogan wouldn't become president. @Ryder

guy says tayyip take care of me not syrians not afghans me me i am a (member of Turkish nation) i have done my military service for this nation. i have only one thing to say to this dayı your vote is no longer required since tayyip have syrians and afghans to vote for him

now question why did you vote for tayyip ?? because of islam ??? look were islam have lead you

 

[Strong AI]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1830514502548222127

Tell me your speech-writers and consultants are illiterate and suffer from acute Minderwertigkeitskomplex without telling me they are and they do.

IMHO turkish politicians only care about how many votes they will gain, but they are really bad at math, which means they don't count the votes they will loose.
Looks like this applys for turkish foreign policy too.

 

[Lool]

AKP is doomed

Change in votes of AK Party and CHP (undecided votes distributed) in the last 4 months. Due to the reaction of low-income people, AK Party votes have fallen to their lowest level since November 3, 2002.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1820461091077402840