TR Politics

[Deliorman]

Well... You must show everyone that you are more Arab than Arabs themselves. Is there even a single Arab country who had a day of National Mourning for Ishmael Haniyeh, the Hamas terrorist? Only Turkey and Iran were dumb enough to do something like that. Some people are really dragging Turkey to the bottom with their stupid policies.

 

[Deliorman]

Never forget this and the davuls and zurnas and the dancing AKP fanboys when opening the Third Bosphorus bridge a day after 16 policemen were martyred in Kayseri by the PKK. When Turks die our wanna be Arabs don't even give a damn... but for Palestine they cry with crocodile tears.

 

[Asena_great]

Never forget this and the davuls and zurnas and the dancing AKP fanboys when opening the Third Bosphorus bridge a day after 16 policemen were martyred in Kayseri by the PKK. When Turks die our wanna be Arabs don't even give a damn... but for Palestine they cry with crocodile tears.

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in the left selo in the right ismail haniye leader of hamas ​

and this is the Arab that the wanted to be

@Zafer @Fuzuli NL @Ryder @Corvus @Bogeyman

 

[Zafer]

in the left selo in the right ismail haniye leader of hamas in the left​

and this is the Arab that the wanted to be

@Zafer @Fuzuli NL @Ryder @Corvus @Bogeyman

I side with a powerful Türkiye, you side with a Türkiye that surrenders to the enemy.

 

[Asena_great]

I side with a powerful Türkiye, you side with a Türkiye that surrenders to the enemy.

yeah powerfully turkey means karabuk university. you become "imperial goç" with gavatlik feeding arabs while leaving nothing for turks you the arab ofc will become more powerful but turks will go down which exactly what you wanted in the first place

 

[Asena_great]

in the left selo in the right ismail haniye leader of hamas ​

and this is the Arab that the wanted to be

@Zafer @Fuzuli NL @Ryder @Corvus @Bogeyman

@Zafer what do you have to say about hamas relationship with HDP ??

 

[Zafer]

yeah powerfully turkey means karabuk university. you become "imperial goç" with gavatlik feeding arabs while leaving nothing for turks you the arab ofc will become more powerful but turks will go down which exactly what you wanted in the first place

You don't even know how to write the word Turk, I am not listening to you anymore.

 

[Asena_great]

You don't even know how to write the word Turk, I am not listening to you anymore.

You have nothing else to say about haniye and HDP

 

[Kartal1]

@Asena_great @Zafer

Guys, stick to the productive tone of the discussion. Stay out of provocations. Attack the argument and not the person behind it.

 

[uçuyorum]

I would suggest everyone to read Machiavelli's The Prince, I read it in one day, great work. Especially the part about proxies and mercenaries

 

[CAN_TR]

Economy is in shambles, country filled with 3rd world, criminality is breaking records every year, terrorism/separatism but our people protest for Palestine and animal (straydog) rights, instead. And those are also the current topics in parliament.

I don't know if i should laugh or cry...

 

[Lool]

Economy is in shambles, country filled with 3rd world, criminality is breaking records every year, terrorism/separatism but our people protest for Palestine and animal (straydog) rights, instead. And those are also the current topics in parliament.

I don't know if i should laugh or cry...

Politicians dont care about the average citizen mate

In the US, during the presidential debate, they only kept talking about who is gonna lick the israeli/jewish boot more than the other since they know that the jews are the ones whom will decide who wins the election and ignored inflation, immigration and border issues etc

In Turkey, AKP protest for palestine to please the idiotic chunk of their voter base even though immigration is causing a catastrophe while the CHP are protecting money-laundering tycoons disguised as animal rights advocators while the average turk is being eaten to death by stray dogs.

All politicians only care about catering to those who will support them only

 

[Rooxbar]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1820208964862087422

 

[Deliorman]

Economy is in shambles, country filled with 3rd world, criminality is breaking records every year, terrorism/separatism but our people protest for Palestine and animal (straydog) rights, instead. And those are also the current topics in parliament.

I don't know if i should laugh or cry...

Every nation is being ruled the way it deserves as a collective. The elite comes from the people, not the other way around. You can't be a collective of corrupt and uneducated peasants but want your country to be like Switzerland.

When for centuries your people were being kept on purpose to be illiterate, poor and submissive it will give effect on the country even now and it is very hard to escape the cycle.

Let's just admit it, the vast majority of Turks are intellectually and mentally below average and it reflects on sports, economics, politics, technology, culture- everywhere. You see the results every single day.

 

[Anastasius]

I am fairly confident on blaming the lacking of Turkish citizens mentally on the education system. From what I can see, it's certainly not the lack of human potential and 100+ years is certainly enough to reverse the damage of the previous centuries.

Azerbaijan has a similar problem where we are very much capable of producing intellectually outstanding citizens but they don't want to stay in Azerbaijan for the most part if they can leave and are not very patriotic.

 

[Rooxbar]

I remember around 2010s I as a teenager knew what kind of mentality Islamists have and how they will act the second they see themselves safe from military coups. I said they will try to turn the country into Iran, and people laughed basing their judgment on their actions at that period of time; having no clue about the overwhelming hold a messianic and apocalyptic ideology obsessed with the afterlife can have on the minds of people born into; they didn't know that the processes which will turn the country into Iran, will also transform populace like a boiling frog, creating new normals and wiping out memories of past normals, at which point when a complete transformation is achieved they will not know they are living in it. They were fooled by their Takkiye of their liberal phase and they are still fooled now. Looking at their attitudes now, I have very little doubt that election frauds have been happening when losing elections has mattered a little too much; I think we're deluding ourselves if we believe these guys will leave with elections. They have completely hollowed out the armed forces, making all manners of promotion depend on political will just for the days that will come.

 

[Corvus]

majority of Turks are intellectually and mentally below average

What is "the average" here? How did you calculate it?

 

[Deliorman]

What is "the average" here? How did you calculate it?

Probably the best measurement for intelligence is your level of education. It has it's flaws but there isn't a better way to calculate something like this for big masses of people.

According to the statistics like 15- 17% of Turks know English (even less people know any other foreign language too)... Of those 17% a huge part is people who are at very basic levels of proficiency. So like 90% of the population has no real access to information, to foreign news sources, to foreign knowledge and know how.

You will tell me what is the percentage of people in Turkey with a Secondary and higher secondary education? What about these with a bachelors degree etc?

This is the statistics from 10 years ago for those between 25 and 34 but let's say that now it is better:

What if you include those over 40-50-60 years old etc? You start to see the picture.

Finishing high school is something pretty average when it comes to education and I am not even talking about the quality of secondary schools where Turkey is behind developed and many developing countries too.

Yes Turkey is below the world average in education and hence in intelligence too... Or at least behind the part of the world that matters.

 

[Rooxbar]

WTF is happening in that country man? Literally want to jump on a plane and go to Taksim and protest on my own. Like everywhere I look my beautiful country is on the same league as North Korea, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, etc. And then there's a not-so-ignorable minority of people defending this shit; anybody can defend anything, but the way they defend it shows that they have no clue why their arguments are retarded at all, which means they are retarded and have no clue also. I am so fucking angry.

 

[Corvus]

Probably the best measurement for intelligence is your level of education. It has it's flaws but there isn't a better way to calculate something like this for big masses of people.

According to the statistics like 15- 17% of Turks know English (even less people know any other foreign language too)... Of those 17% a huge part is people who are at very basic levels of proficiency. So like 90% of the population has no real access to information, to foreign news sources, to foreign knowledge and know how.

You will tell me what is the percentage of people in Turkey with a Secondary and higher secondary education? What about these with a bachelors degree etc?

This is the statistics from 10 years ago for those between 25 and 34 but let's say that now it is better:

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What if you include those over 40-50-60 years old etc? You start to see the picture.

Finishing high school is something pretty average when it comes to education and I am not even talking about the quality of secondary schools where Turkey is behind developed and many developing countries too.

Yes Turkey is below the world average in education and hence in intelligence too... Or at least behind the part of the world that matters.

The statistic you shared is from the OECD. It only includes 38 countries and these countries are rather developed countries. (Actually, even Türkiye being in OECD proves that we're not as bad as you think)

I'm pretty confident that Türkiye is above the average in everything you mentioned, considering the world is not just about OECD or developed countries.

Not saying we're the best. It is just factually not correct that we're below the average.