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[Ardabas34]

Get a vpn. I say this dont watch porn i know you dont follow a religion but porn destroys you in the long run. This issue is personal so its up to you to decide.

Porn destroys the meaning of sex also causes addiction akin to drugs. Porn nearly destroyed my life no joke.

Seriously our ancestors spent most of their time fighting and conquering. They did not have time for bilim.

If you are talking about the Ottoman empire not contributing jack shit then the various Turkic empires done nothing too ozaman.

You are talking orientalist points academic studies have shown that the Seljuks, Ottomans, Mamluks, Timurids and the Ghaznavids have all contributed to science and knowledge.

Us Turks fell off from being at the top once the industrial revolution set in.

Which empire has not suffered humilations and defeats especially at its declining amd collapsing state????

At the end every empire or civilisation will bite the dust because thats life.

Funny how people are willing to overlook successes and quickly point to failures then use it as a way to slander to cover their inferior complex.

"The more things change, the more they stay the same. Boundaries shift, new players step in; but power always finds a place to rest its head."

The caliph of Muslims: Abdülaziz wrote a book on vals ''valse davet''. II.Abdülhamid you people depict as one of you was a fan of western opera.
These are the last remarks I am going to make on this. This was the situation the caliphs of islam were in. Even they accepted the superiority of the western culture.
Your parents did admit too by migrating to Australia.

These were my last remarks on the topic.

About getting a vpn part.

That is obviously not the point, the point is, the state interferes with a service I pay for, for its ideological islamist obsession. Even if that was the point:
The fucking government by conducting a ''hit'' on its own state foundation ''Turk Telekom'' for years with a Lebonese Arab family, made Turkey the country with the worst internet in Europe.

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Instead of being ashamed of this scandal, they also put ideologic bans on porns. So when you use vpn, the videos lag like hell!
They already messed up with the internet with their corruption and they shamelessly deliver the second hit with their ideological obsession.

I get frustrated every time because porn freezes constantly. They are almost unwatchable! A person waits with his hand on his dick waiting for the bar to fill a bit. It drops until the video loads!

It is my business whether I watch porn or not. Internet is a service I pay for, not sth given to me as a charity. Who are they to interfere with the service I pay for?

Any person with a tiny bit of common sense would oppose this! You are talking about respect all the day, when you interfere even with the porn I watch, even with the service I pay for, I ask you, doesnt your religion become my concern as well? Doesnt this grant me the right of interfering with your religion?

If you are interfering with my porn and alcohol, guess what? I am interfering with your religion!

 

[Sinan]

The caliph of Muslims: Abdülaziz wrote a book on vals ''valse davet''. II.Abdülhamid you people depict as one of you was a fan of western opera.
These are the last remarks I am going to make on this. This was the situation the caliphs of islam were in. Even they accepted the superiority of the western culture.
Your parents did admit too by migrating to Australia.

These were my last remarks on the topic.

About getting a vpn part.

The fucking government by conducting a ''hit'' on its own state foundation ''Turk Telekom'' for years with a Lebonese Arab family, made Turkey the country with the worst internet in Europe.

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Instead of being ashamed of this scandal, they also put ideologic bans on porns. So when you use vpn, the videos lag like hell!
They already messed up with the internet with their corruption and they shamelessly deliver the second hit with their ideological obsession.

I get frustrated every time because porn freezes constantly. They are almost unwatchable! A person waits with his hand on his dick waiting for the bar to fill a bit. It drops until the video loads!

It is my business whether I watch porn or not. Internet is a service I pay for, not sth given to me as a charity. Who are they to interfere with the service I pay for?

Any person with a tiny bit of common sense would oppose this! You are talking about respect all the day, when you interfere even with the porn I watch, even with the service I pay for, I ask you, doesnt your religion become my concern as well? Doesnt this grant me the right of interfering with your religion?

If you are interfering with my porn and alcohol, guess what? I am interfering with your religion!

Bro, you are discussing in vain. Of course i'm not gonna say something like don't argue with this guy but. If someone thinks that an entire race should be removed from the face of earth and his views should be enforced on everyone. Then there is not much to be discussed upon. Just leave the guy in his dreams.

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On topic average of the 13 pol companies shows that AKP+MHP will be defeated by 15 percent at the worst case.

 

[Saithan]

I already deleted a few post because my cup for insults got filled.

It would be more productive if you guys talked about what kind of candidates you’d want.

The show will continue until 2023 elections and as you can see government is trying to score point and fuck up at the same time.

During financial crises in EU etc when turkey was experiencing a boom, that was during economic reforms and freedom that pretty much got destroyed etc after RTE and FETÖ started stabbing each other.

Many turks who went back to Turkey with their families had to flee and lost all their properties etc because of this feud. They didn’t have to go to Turkey. They were pizza and kebab owners etc who brought everything they had to Turkey at the time.

Some may have learned their lesson and won’t ever vote on politicians promoting their islamic politics. Who knows.

The conditions in Turkey weren’t better than EU even then, but weren’t far below them. You could say that Turkey was moving closer to EU standards on salary etc. Even if workhours still sucked.

I don’t expect anyone who hasn’t experienced receipt collections and economy from 90’s to underdtand this.

But truth is there aren’t many solid candidates in Turkish politics worth voting on. And CHP under KO is even worse because of their massive anti Atatürk members that are the core of the party now.

As if Atatürks achievements in politics were any less than on the front.

But the good thing is it’ll be easier to swap them out, but you need to change government to dig up the dirt and hunt them down for crimes. So babacan, davutoglu, aksener etc would work. Because this entire politicsl system has to change.

 

[Ardabas34]

On topic average of the 13 pol companies shows that AKP+MHP will be defeated by 15 percent at the worst case.

I know but my main concern is that the current main opposition, the current Chp administration came to power with a joint Erdogan+Gulen casette operation. They arent Kemalists, they are globalists.

For example KK congratulated Ahmet Altan after he was released. Why are you congratulating a Feto member who participated in the hoaxes of Ergenekon and Balyoz suitcases?
If I remember correct, he did this for Nazli Ilicak too.
He literally has a CIA member in his party: Sezgin Tanrikulu. In wikileaks, even the guys agent code was leaked. TR 705!

My only hope is Muharrem Ince but I am not sure about him neither.

Turkish nation really needs to get rid of all the political parties in the assembly right now. We really need a reset in our democracy.

 

[Mustafa27]

I wonder why you guys think anything is gonna change after a new party comes into power, it will be the same old.

 

[Ryder]

I know but my main concern is that the current main opposition, the current Chp administration came to power with a joint Erdogan+Gulen casette operation. They arent Kemalists, they are globalists.

For example KK congratulated Ahmet Altan after he was released. Why are you congratulating a Feto member who participated in the hoaxes of Ergenekon and Balyoz suitcases?
If I remember correct, he did this for Nazli Ilicak too.
He literally has a CIA member in his party: Sezgin Tanrikulu. In wikileaks, even the guys agent code was leaked. TR 705!

My only hope is Muharrem Ince but I am not sure about him neither.

Turkish nation really needs to get rid of all the political parties in the assembly right now. We really need a reset in our democracy.

Whats your opinion on Mansur Yavas?

You think his the right the candidate in the future?

 

[Sinan]

Some regime lovers, deleted my posts as usual.

Yeah, Erdogan will be going to jail when he leaves the power. He violated our constitution for multiple times. He and his family made every possible fraud in Turkey. Robbed Turkish people by Billions in order to make his family and friends rich.

So, he will be going to jail. Wonder if you still going to delete my posts when Erdogan happens to be in jail.

 

[Xenon54]

Yea, that is rich and hypocritical from you, we see how you second homeland tolerate different opinions and freedoms of expression, spare me.

Way better than Turkey and certainly other countries in Balkans and Middlea East, i wont even debate this with you...

 

[Sinan]

Whats your opinion on Mansur Yavas?

You think his the right the candidate in the future?

Doesn't matter now, Imamoğlu, Meral, Kılıçdaroğlu, Meral Akşener....all is beating Erdogan with this new system.

 

[mulj]

Way better than Turkey and certainly other countries in Balkans and Middlea East, i wont even debate this with you...

Way worse, at least we do not make refendums on 30 women cloths or so and could we or could not raise minarets, so you can continue to keep position full of hypocrisy while you critisize left and right...

 

[Xenon54]

Way worse, at least we do not make refendums on 30 women cloths or so and could we or could not raise minarets, so you can continue to keep position full of hypocrisy while you critisize left and right...

I knew you would come up with that but guess what, thats democracy at work, its pure will of the people, Swiss people dont want minaretts and dont want ninja women in the streets.
It has nothing to do with freedoms being limited, i am still free to practice my religion, still free to have my opinion, still free to critisize the goverment without getting arrested.

Instead of being butthurt about it ask yourself why these people dont like muslims, spoiler alert its because of people like you, yes you exactly are part of the problem and your behavior is giving munition to right wing populists and making our lives here harder.

And please dont come with ''but burqa ban limits freedom'' burqa itsels is a smybol of opression and has no place in any modern socieity, i wish Turkey would also ban that Arab tradition and protect its women better against oppression.
If you are so willing then wear a burqa in summer nobody is holding you, lets see how long you will wear it at 40°C.

 

[Ardabas34]

Whats your opinion on Mansur Yavas?

You think his the right the candidate in the future?

I have high opinions of him but Kılıçdar is a dangerous player. He can nullify him like he did to Muharrem. Kılıçdar may make him the candidate for presidency then passify him by going back to the parliamenter system. Because presidents dont have much power in the parliamenter system. Though I am not sure if thats the way it works. I mean whether a president stays a president if we go back to parliamenter system or another election process happens.

Mansur definitely makes some moves that imply he doesnt intent to remain as the minister of Ankara. He made a very popular twitch livestream with a famous streamer PQueen. This was obviously a move to gain symphaty of the generation Z and it is a no brainer that he has been successful at it.
Though this might be because Kılıçdar wants to drag the attentions towards his party from its terrorist symphatisers to his two popular ministers to avoid heat.
It is quite possible and worrying that he will use them to drag attention then he will silently push them to more passive positions.

 

[guest12]

I know but my main concern is that the current main opposition, the current Chp administration came to power with a joint Erdogan+Gulen casette operation. They arent Kemalists, they are globalists.

For example KK congratulated Ahmet Altan after he was released. Why are you congratulating a Feto member who participated in the hoaxes of Ergenekon and Balyoz suitcases?
If I remember correct, he did this for Nazli Ilicak too.
He literally has a CIA member in his party: Sezgin Tanrikulu. In wikileaks, even the guys agent code was leaked. TR 705!

My only hope is Muharrem Ince but I am not sure about him neither.

Turkish nation really needs to get rid of all the political parties in the assembly right now. We really need a reset in our democracy.

You are wise enough to read current players bravo for that and still posses Türlük Bilinci unlike many so called Kemalists walking around with Ataturk avatars.I am honestly impressed. You should also search why three generals and Ümit Özdağ did resign from IYI Party to understand how far opposition parties infiltrated.

Ali Aydın İYİ Parti'den istifa etti

İYİ Parti Kurucular Kurulu ve Genel İdare Kurulu Üyesi ve Genel Başkan Başdanışmanı. 'Yörük Ali Paşa' lakaplı, emekli Tuğgeneral Ali Aydın, partisinden istifa etti.

www.sozcu.com.tr

 

[Ryder]

Doesn't matter now, Imamoğlu, Meral, Kılıçdaroğlu, Meral Akşener....all is beating Erdogan with this new system.

Kilictaroglu the guy who lost to Tayyip so many times. In fact his so useless he helps Tayyip get elected all does Tayyip do is show Kilictaroglu to the public say you want this guy to replace me.

Kilictaroglu is better off leaving and retiring. Same for Devlet Bahceli too.

When it comes to politics people prefer fresh faces.

Only kilictaroglu has done is bring his own party defeat after defeat. Chp going with that whole Ataturkcu vibe is no longer working because the voter expects better.

Akp cant use the religious card for long as their voters are abandoning them due to the economic situation and various other factors and the constant throwing of goodwill that has led to enough is enough.

Kilictaroglu has lost so many times even with one defeat a person anounces his resignation and hands over the reins to his successor.

 

[mulj]

I knew you would come up with that but guess what, thats democracy at work, its pure will of the people, Swiss people dont want minaretts and dont want ninja women in the streets.
It has nothing to do with freedoms being limited, i am still free to practice my religion, still free to have my opinion, still free to critisize the goverment without getting arrested.

Instead of being butthurt about it ask yourself why these people dont like muslims, spoiler alert its because of people like you, yes you exactly are part of the problem and your behavior is giving munition to right wing populists and making our lives here harder.

And please dont come with ''but burqa ban limits freedom'' burqa itsels is a smybol of opression and has no place in any modern socieity, i wish Turkey would also ban that Arab tradition and protect its women better against oppression.
If you are so willing then wear a burqa in summer nobody is holding you, lets see how long you will wear it at 40°C.

You know what Dirty Harry said about opinions. No, my friend you are the problem, by your logic iran is democracy to, ironic. You are braze enough to form opinion about someone who you do not know, who is he, what he values beside this forum etc. Just because i do not like how the muslims are treated around the world and when rain fall in arizona muslims are guilty, that is quite shortisghted and "opinonated"

 

[Xenon54]

No, my firend you are the problem, by your logic iran is democracy to, ironic.

Iran is far from democracy, what are you smoking? Its a sham democracy at best...

You are braze enough to form opinion about someone who you do not know, who is he, what he values beside this forum etc. Just because i do not like how the muslims are treated around the world and when rain fall in arizona muslims are guilty, that is quite shortisghted and "opinonated"

No my opinion comes from the fact that you call people names just because they post facts and have a different opinion from you.
Half of my family is die hard Erdoganists and pretty conservative, you are pretty much like them, i know you guys i dont need to for a opinion for that.

 

[mulj]

Iran is far from democracy, what are you smoking? Its a sham democracy at best...

No my opinion comes from the fact that you call people names just because they post facts and have a different opinion from you.
Half of my family is die hard Erdoganists and pretty conservative, you are pretty much like them, i know you guys i dont need to for a opinion for that.

Yep similar to switzerland, they also dictate what people should wear or not, all under democratic pretext.
What names?

 

[Xenon54]

Yep similar to switzerland, they also dictate what people should wear or not, all under democratic pretext.

There is no rule in switzerland that says you are not allowed to wear certain clothes, even thought the right wing and islamists call it burqa ban its about ban on face covers in general, you can wear whatever you want as long as your face is not covered at least know what you complain about before bringing it up.
I get the feeling that you have no clue what democracy is, your arguments make zero sense.

What names?

Lot of auto chauvinist opinions and attitudes here. If the forum representts Turkey i would say it is lost cuase, twisting tongues and spitting on Turkey from false west dichotomy became ridicoulus and sad expression of menal colonisation.

 

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