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Turkiye has always been a bridge for refugees.

Many refugees want to go to Europe. What the eu did was offer money to tayyip.

Tayyip ruined his own people for his own greed because that eu money was too sweet.

Turkiye wont be having much of a problem if did not accept the eu money deal do open borders.

You cant keep refugees held up forcefully they want to leave no matter what .
Turkey is hardly a final destination for a greater majority, I‘ll give you that.

Erdoğan expected greater funds from the West to aid resettle refugees north of Syria, apparently he was not so convincing in his arguments. Nor he tried to communicate a solution with Syria.

Now we are stuck with a ”wild card(!) against the West, dubbed in the west as “blackmail”.
 

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Turkey is hardly a final destination for a greater majority, I‘ll give you that.

Erdoğan expected greater funds from the West to aid resettle refugees north of Syria, apparently he was not so convincing in his arguments. Nor he tried to communicate a solution with Syria.

Now we are stuck with a ”wild card(!) against the West, dubbed in the west as “blackmail”.

What a fck up.

All did Erdogan had to say when rejecting the eu deal is that migration is a human right.
 

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Thats how the West rules so many politicians in other countries because every guy or women politician are corrupt they want money so they can pocket it in their own stash.

Turkiye has lots of it unfortunately.

Same old corruption that destroyed many Turkic Empires or peoples.
 

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WE spent 90+ billion $ for refugees and get what? something between 3-6 billions? Most of the money is given to NGOs only a fraction of that money is given to the Turkish state. We have been tricked, we have been backstabbed and we have been quite possibly bamboozled.

Fuck the money nobody realized how serious this is. It is an existential-level problem. Even worse than the US invading us. We can fight off invaders but this is not a war we can win. 20 years later, ~%15 of the population(15-20 million Syrians) will consist of Syrians let that sink in.
 

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WE spent 90+ billion $ for refugees and get what? something between 3-6 billions? Most of the money is given to NGOs only a fraction of that money is given to the Turkish state. We have been tricked, we have been backstabbed and we have been quite possibly bamboozled.

Fuck the money nobody realized how serious this is. It is an existential-level problem. Even worse than the US invading us. We can fight off invaders but this is not a war we can win. 20 years later, ~%15 of the population(15-20 million Syrians) will consist of Syrians let that sink in.

Yeah that’s why the next elections are so important. There are already 23 Arabic countries, I don’t want Turkiye to be one of them.
 

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The next election will be a great milestone for Turkiye's own future. Either it will get its head out of the water with a dead cat counce or it will be drowned.

And who ever will be the next president, I am totally sure that the country will no worse than the current situation.
 

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WE spent 90+ billion $ for refugees and get what? something between 3-6 billions? Most of the money is given to NGOs only a fraction of that money is given to the Turkish state. We have been tricked, we have been backstabbed and we have been quite possibly bamboozled.

Fuck the money nobody realized how serious this is. It is an existential-level problem. Even worse than the US invading us. We can fight off invaders but this is not a war we can win. 20 years later, ~%15 of the population(15-20 million Syrians) will consist of Syrians let that sink in.


Just my 2cents: Refugees and the money spend on them dont just disappear. They are spend on food, rent and groceries and most of it end ups in the economy anyway.

I, for one, like to see the exodus of Russian and Ukrainians IT professionals to Turkey. Can't compare them to refugees from Syria of course, because most of them that make it to Turkey have money, know how and will contribute to the economy within a reasonable timeframe.
 

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For this issue, I am open to elective courses if there is enough numbers in the schools.
Or private school that are fully in another language as there is French or German schools.
For Kurdish courses, private courses are opened but as therewere not enough demand, they were all closed afaik.
I am pretty sure nobody would pay any private school, or just minority and problem might be solved.
 

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Lol who the fuck is Babacan? What you guys don't understand is, it is really easy to get rid of Kılıçdaroğlu, Babacan etc. They have no power, no popular support, no bureaucracy to back them. Erdo is a populist monster he is clinging to power for more than 20 years already. He is literally an elected sultan. In no democratic state a ruler is elected over and over again for 20 years . There is a limit for a reason. This is ridiculous and mark my words if he is elected in 2023 that election will not be his last election. Handling the likes of Babacan and Kılıçdaroğlu is easy. Hold mass protests for a week and they will resign and go down the toilet. Turkish nation can get rid of them if nation feels in danger but Turkish nation can't get rid of Erdoğan that easily.

Priority list
1) Get rid of Erdo (difficulty hard)
2) Pressure the next gov to handle the refugee issue. (difficulty medium)
3) Get rid of the next gov if nothing is done and put in charge someone who can get the job done. (difficulty easy)

As you guys can see without getting rid of Erdo first no one can do anything about the refugee crisis. Sure there is no guarantee that the next government will behave but removing them will be magnitudes easier at that point as they are a collection of a bunch of people.
 
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Lol who the fuck is Babacan? What you guys don't understand is, it is really easy to get rid of Kılıçdaroğlu, Babacan etc. They have no power, no popular support, no bureaucracy to back them. Erdo is a populist monster he is clinging to power for more than 20 years already. He is literally an elected sultan. In no democratic state a ruler is elected over and over again for 20 years . There is a limit for a reason. This is ridiculous and mark my words if he is elected in 2023 that election will not be his last election. Handling the likes of Babacan and Kılıçdaroğlu is easy. Hold mass protests for a week and they will resign and go down the toilet. Turkish nation can get rid of them if nation feels in danger but Turkish nation can't get rid of Erdoğan that easily.

Priority list
1) Get rid of Erdo (difficulty hard)
2) Pressure the next gov to handle the refugee issue. (difficulty medium)
3) Get rid of the next gov if nothing is done and put in charge someone who can get the job done. (difficulty easy)

As you guys can see without getting rid of Erdo first no one can do anything about the refugee crisis. Sure there is no guarantee that the next government will behave but removing them will be magnitudes easier at that point as they are a collection of a bunch of people.
-Babacan part of 6+1 opposition alliance that will rule this country after 2023.Not the mention he never abondoned his atlantic connections even after AKP-Gulenist shicm instead he turned back on AKP.

-Claming Syrians/Pakistani/Afghan immigrants bigger threat than Kurds is naive at best.

-The fact you believe you can bring any goverment in Turkiye with one week protesting makes me question did you just born yesterday (no offense).

Now lets return Babacan yesterday he also gave signals for Ergenekon 2.0 and Balyoz 2.0.American assets like him dont make speeches like this without getting conformation from overseas.Hes actually very capable and mannered politician thus dangerous politican so this was not a slip of tongue.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Turkey/comments/tgeufc
 
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Babacan is %1 that is it. He is trying really hard sucking that American ass. He has no real power. Perinçek probably holds more power than Babacan. AKP voters hate Babacan, CHP voters hate Babacan, undecided voters hate Babacan.

Syrians are a bigger threat than PKK. You can fight and win against PKK but you can't fight against Syrians. I also do not see Kurds as a threat.

-The fact you believe you can bring any goverment in Turkiye with one week protesting makes me question did you just born yesterday (no offense).
This shows how young you are. As you probably don't know any governments other than AKP. In fact, it is easier than what I wrote. Just remember how Ecevit's government was dismantled. Suddenly MHP withdrew from the government due to pressure of its voting base and the next day an early election is announced.
 
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Kurds shitting lies, Mark Ruffalo, who has eight million followers, shares it, Turkiye who cleans Arab ass can't find time to respond.
According to these guys, Nudem Durak was imprisoned just for making music in Kurdish. Yes, ignore the PKK rags and the huge apo rag. Just for making music in Kurdish :D
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Look at this shit @Tonyukuk
 

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Mark Ruffalo is pretty famous for posting a lot of stupid shit on Twitter so this is par for the course for him. I wouldn't be surprised if this was just some PKK sympathizer tweeting a bunch of nonsense at him, asking "pwetty pwease make this known" and dude, virtue signaler that he is, fell straight for it.
 

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Where is Soylu? Why does he not intervene like he did with the students? Those a$$holes don't want to be part of this country and society Turks should start deporting them to Barzanistan where they can live how they want.
Again, another reason of wy Iam scared of what these assholes will do when they have some leverage over the new ruling party. Iam 100% sure that the HDP will do a lot of bad things within the next 6 years if CHP is in power; especially if they wanna get their so-called independence! The best moment for their independence to be fulfilled is within 2023-2029 (if the presidential duration isnt changed) since CHP wont be elected again for a second term post 2029 with the current status quo

I dont think Soylu will do anything to these hooligans rn
Soylu probably knew of this just like when they sang the HDP's or PKK's anthem in Istanbul a few months ago.
I think soylu is looking towards the core members rather than the idiotic extremities

I said it in a previous post, but the current HDP cant be closed with traditional means. During Erdo tenure, they closed the PKK party three times and it just re-emerged in another name and continued its operations against Turkey. Rn, HDP's propaganda became more of like a "religion" and you cant remove a fake religion by targeting the idiotic believers (extremities) but by capturing the core assholes and making them confess the truth or by killing them to make ppl believe that this "religion" is gone once and for all just like by sharing the HDP parliamentary member picture with one such PKK fighter

There may be other reasons since I dont wanna portray Soylu as perfect or with soooo much talent since he may just not give a fq to the current protests; however, I do believe that he has some idea on how those with rotten minds think and this may be supported by the fact that there are lots of active PKK members who are being caught within Turkey every day;
 
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Again, another reason of wy Iam scared of what these assholes will do when they have some leverage over the new ruling party. Iam 100% sure that the HDP will do a lot of bad things within the next 6 years if CHP is in power; especially if they wanna get their so-called independence! The best moment for their independence to be fulfilled is within 2023-2029 (if the presidential duration isnt changed) since CHP wont be elected again for a second term post 2029 with the current status quo

I dont think Soylu will do anything to these hooligans rn
Soylu probably knew of this just like when they sang the HDP's or PKK's anthem in Istanbul a few months ago.
I think soylu is looking towards the core members rather than the idiotic extremities

I said it in a previous post, but the current HDP cant be closed with traditional means. During Erdo tenure, they closed the PKK party three times and it just re-emerged in another name and continued its operations against Turkey. Rn, HDP's propaganda became more of like a "religion" and you cant remove a fake religion by targeting the idiotic believers (extremities) but by capturing the core assholes and making them confess the truth or by killing them to make ppl believe that this "religion" is gone once and for all just like by sharing the HDP parliamentary member picture with one such PKK fighter

There may be other reasons since I dont wanna portray Soylu as perfect or with soooo much talent since he may just not give a fq to the current protests; however, I do believe that he has some idea on how those with rotten minds think and this may be supported by the fact that there are lots of active PKK members who are being caught within Turkey every day;
Just last week a know terrorist propagandist was released spare us with those excuses. They need to be deported asap, together with all the refugees otherwise we will face much greater internal problems in the next two decades. No time for humanism when the Turkish state is threatened.

Connection to anything related to terrorists no matter PKK, FETÖ or ISIS. Loss of citizenship and immediate deportation.
 

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Again, another reason of wy Iam scared of what these assholes will do when they have some leverage over the new ruling party. Iam 100% sure that the HDP will do a lot of bad things within the next 6 years if CHP is in power; especially if they wanna get their so-called independence! The best moment for their independence to be fulfilled is within 2023-2029 (if the presidential duration isnt changed) since CHP wont be elected again for a second term post 2029 with the current status quo

I dont think Soylu will do anything to these hooligans rn
Soylu probably knew of this just like when they sang the HDP's or PKK's anthem in Istanbul a few months ago.
I think soylu is looking towards the core members rather than the idiotic extremities

I said it in a previous post, but the current HDP cant be closed with traditional means. During Erdo tenure, they closed the PKK party three times and it just re-emerged in another name and continued its operations against Turkey. Rn, HDP's propaganda became more of like a "religion" and you cant remove a fake religion by targeting the idiotic believers (extremities) but by capturing the core assholes and making them confess the truth or by killing them to make ppl believe that this "religion" is gone once and for all just like by sharing the HDP parliamentary member picture with one such PKK fighter

There may be other reasons since I dont wanna portray Soylu as perfect or with soooo much talent since he may just not give a fq to the current protests; however, I do believe that he has some idea on how those with rotten minds think and this may be supported by the fact that there are lots of active PKK members who are being caught within Turkey every day;
Those gatherings became a norm with the so-called peace process and AKP does nothing against those gatherings even today. Interior Minister Süleyman Soylu is sleeping on the job. He should have sent the police.
 

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