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Those aliens should have been kicked out of the country by FORCE a long time ago. But when you have a traitor at top, things don't go well. It's clear man, they want to create a syria 2.0. Strong countries/empires tend to die from INSIDE not outside.
 

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If Erdoğan loses, this will happen according to The New York Times:

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Yeah, if you could provide a source too instead of some random picture, that would be appreciated.
 

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Lol, thats the map that Ottoman Empire signed in Sevre. :ROFLMAO:
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Since they lost, they had to do what the winner wanted which is to divide the Ottoman state
When Ataturk came, it became a wedge in their overall grand plan; thus, they aim to retry forming their desired map by using the radicalised Kurds in the current era

Idk whether the image shared by Ravenman is legit or just some sort of AKP propaganda, but this is what is expected to happen in the grand scheme of things over the next few decades. You dont know the morale boost the PKK will get when Demirtas and Ocalan get released and they get all the territories in contact with the Turkish border again? Obviously, you have to couple that with the deepening of the relations between Assad and PKK. They will drink cups of champaigne over Turkey's withdrawal and will be a sign for the whole world of how you can lose even if you possess a stronger army but shitty leaders just like in Ukraine/Russia war

I expect after AKP's loss and Turkey's retreat from Syria and probably Libya as well, for the PKK to lay low for a few years in order to re-establish their defense and supply routes and to retrain and rearm as well. In fact, recent rumors suggest that the US is thinking of sending howitzers/artillery to the PKK in addition to old military helicopters which may indicate that the US is betting on cutting Turkey this time once and for all before any new anti-PKK sentiment rises after 10-20 years
 
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- with pictures of Demirtaş and Öcalan next to that of Atatürk at schools.
- Stop calling YPG a 'terror' organisation, because it will 'upset our friends'.
I like how you arranged these possible outcomes where you put Öcalan's photo next to Atatürk and then added the others because you thought portraits of Öcalan and Atatürk didn't bring the point across enough and needed juuuuust a little more.

I'm not trying to stoop to this level of propaganda but god damn this is some misvak level sh*t.
 

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PKK/YPG will get 100% moral boost after Gandi-Kemal's election victory, and the release of gaylord Demirtaş would be the cherry at the top of the pie.

Imagine a PKK-friendly Turkey:

- with pictures of Demirtaş and Öcalan next to that of Atatürk at schools.

- A friendly football match between Turkey and the Kurdish national team

- Newroz being a national holliday

- Production of drones stopped, because they are 'weapons of mass destemruction'

- Stop calling YPG a 'terror' organisation, because it will 'upset our friends'.

I cant imagine it.
Yeah very sorry but Turkiye is still a military state even in its constitution ,military have right to interfere and take control so even if Demirtas hyena is chooses as president cant do shit , there are top Turkish generals that protect nation and agents of MIT . So i dont think military industry will stop whatever is choosen as president , thats will be high treason and generals will show their balls again 🤣🤣
 

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Yes
Since they lost, they had to do what the winner wanted which is to divide the Ottoman state
When Ataturk came, it became a wedge in their overall grand plan; thus, they aim to retry forming their desired map by using the radicalised Kurds in the current era

Idk whether the image shared by Ravenman is legit or just some sort of AKP propaganda, but this is what is expected to happen in the grand scheme of things over the next few decades. You dont know the morale boost the PKK will get when Demirtas and Ocalan get released and they get all the territories in contact with the Turkish border again? Obviously, you have to couple that with the deepening of the relations between Assad and PKK. They will drink cups of champaigne over Turkey's withdrawal and will be a sign for the whole world of how you can lose even if you possess a stronger army but shitty leaders just like in Ukraine/Russia war

I expect after AKP's loss and Turkey's retreat from Syria and probably Libya as well, for the PKK to lay low for a few years in order to re-establish their defense and supply routes and to retrain and rearm as well. In fact, recent rumors suggest that the US is thinking of sending howitzers/artillery to the PKK in addition to old military helicopters which may indicate that the US is betting on cutting Turkey this time once and for all before any new anti-PKK sentiment rises after 10-20 years
1. Why would öcalan be released?
2. Demirtas never recieved a trial, he also deserves a trial as everybody, even öcalan had a trial, what is his country, a banana republic?
3. Why would there be any relation to pkk?
 

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1. Why would öcalan be released?
2. Demirtas never recieved a trial, he also deserves a trial as everybody, even öcalan had a trial, what is his country, a banana republic?
3. Why would there be any relation to pkk?
There is a difference between a trial and a release from prison
Kilicdaroglu promised to not only release Demirtas but also look into the allegations against Ocalan and release him as Kilicdaroglu and in his own words: "is trying to open a new page"

These statements are worrying even if false (which I doubt it is) in fact, Demirtas himself did admit in parliament that the HDP was promoting PKK and even now, HDP MPs are singing Kurdish anthems within the Turkish parliament in the heart of Ankara

Why am I the only one in this forum who sees a repeat of what Erdogan did from 2002-2013! And if this is the ppl's answer to the recent screw ups of the AKP, then the Turkish public are truly ignorant since they are just repeating the same mistakes of the past while just making the HDP stronger
 

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There is a difference between a trial and a release from prison
Kilicdaroglu promised to not only release Demirtas but also look into the allegations against Ocalan and release him as Kilicdaroglu and in his own words: "is trying to open a new page"

These statements are worrying even if false (which I doubt it is) in fact, Demirtas himself did admit in parliament that the HDP was promoting PKK and even now, HDP MPs are singing Kurdish anthems within the Turkish parliament in the heart of Ankara

Why am I the only one in this forum who sees a repeat of what Erdogan did from 2002-2013! And if this is the ppl's answer to the recent screw ups of the AKP, then the Turkish public are truly ignorant since they are just repeating the same mistakes of the past while just making the HDP stronger
Shqiptar!! Here you go again with your baseless opinions about letting ocalan free. Come on bro please stop it. Why are you so hunged up over Turkish politics anyway? I genuinely want to know.. What’s it to you?
 

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There is a difference between a trial and a release from prison
Kilicdaroglu promised to not only release Demirtas but also look into the allegations against Ocalan and release him as Kilicdaroglu and in his own words: "is trying to open a new page"

These statements are worrying even if false (which I doubt it is) in fact, Demirtas himself did admit in parliament that the HDP was promoting PKK and even now, HDP MPs are singing Kurdish anthems within the Turkish parliament in the heart of Ankara

Why am I the only one in this forum who sees a repeat of what Erdogan did from 2002-2013! And if this is the ppl's answer to the recent screw ups of the AKP, then the Turkish public are truly ignorant since they are just repeating the same mistakes of the past while just making the HDP stronger
I would like to see where you read these claims.
 

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WTF!?
He is still gonna lose with the current trend though

There is still unconfirmed information circulating on social media. The YRP has reportedly agreed on 4 points in exchange for joining the alliance.

These are: A decree on the closure of LGBT associations and constitutional articles on strengthening the family structure. The abolition of Law No. 6284, known as the extension of the Istanbul Convention. Ending the Fullbright education model, which has been in place since 1947. Re-criminalization of adultery. I think it is not yet clear whether the YRP will enter the elections on Akp lists or how many MPs it will get.
 
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