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I know far too many people who would rather eat dirt and live in a barrel than to vote for KK.

A toilet slipper would literally be a better candidate. He was the opposition candidate that Erdogan and AKP supporters were dreaming for. They were very enthusiasticly supporting his candidacy.

Then they can eat dirt. There wasn't a realistic other candidate that could unite the votebase.
 

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Erdogan will mostly appoint ministers from the Hawk group of AKP. Süleyman Soylu, Hulusi Akar, Hakan Fidan, İbrahim Kalın are likely to be in the cabinet.

The first target is a wider operation in Syria once the economic situation eases. Tal Rifat and Qamishlo are likely targets.

Erdogan invited Putin and Zelensky to Ankara. Presidents feel more positive about the invitation compared to the past. Zelensky will probably want to see how the Ukrainian offensive plays out first.
 

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Ümit Dündar Paşa is rumored to be the new defense minister. A hawkish cadre is coming?

Btw, Dündar Paşa is currently a member of the Board of Directors of the Turkish Armed Forces Foundation. He played a critical role in preventing the July 15 coup attempt. He is a hero.
 

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Ümit Dündar Paşa is rumored to be the new defense minister. A hawkish cadre is coming?

Btw, Dündar Paşa is currently a member of the Board of Directors of the Turkish Armed Forces Foundation. He played a critical role in preventing the July 15 coup attempt. He is a hero.
Yes, he might be appointed as the new defense minister. He is one of the names in circulation. He is pro-national defense industry and he is an enemy of FETO. He will probably silence commanders that want foreign weapon systems like F-16s and actively root out Gulenists from the armed forces.
 

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This has to be the biggest form of cope.

Pathetic.
They really need to stop with this "the educated, best and brightest would never vote for Erdogan". Regardless of how true or not that statement is, elections have never been won by insulting your potential voter-base. There was an American political commentator, I forget his name, who wrote a pretty lengthy blog post analyzing Turkish political history and his conclusion was something along the lines of Turkey massively f***ing up by ostracizing its devout Muslim Turk population from more elite institutions with laws like the hijab ban because it drove those devout Muslims further into the arms of extremists rather than integrating them into a more secular framework of the Turkish Republic and influencing their children away from the extremism.
 

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They really need to stop with this "the educated, best and brightest would never vote for Erdogan". Regardless of how true or not that statement is, elections have never been won by insulting your potential voter-base. There was an American political commentator, I forget his name, who wrote a pretty lengthy blog post analyzing Turkish political history and his conclusion was something along the lines of Turkey massively f***ing up by ostracizing its devout Muslim Turk population from more elite institutions with laws like the hijab ban because it drove those devout Muslims further into the arms of extremists rather than integrating them into a more secular framework of the Turkish Republic and influencing their children away from the extremism.

Whats interesting is how Ataturk actually never banned the Hijab also his sister was pretty conservative.

What came after him was the problem nowadays people blame Ataturk but if people realised lots of those bans came in the 1970s to the 1990s. Ataturk passed away by then.

Ataturk was a pragmatic man if people studied and analysed him.

They think anybody from conservative backgrounds are uneducated and never go school or university.

I hate this elitist mentality.
 
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The neo-Kemalists who associate Atatürk with raki would probably have been opponents supporting the second group had they lived during his time. Contrary to what is claimed, there were far more religious opinion leaders who supported Atatürk and the second group was much more liberal. Instead of understanding what kind of a leader Atatürk was, both the conservative idiots and these corrupt neo-c Kemalists are shaping him in their own imaginary world.
 

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Mehmet Şimşek and Erdogan agreed on everything but the interest rate. Şimşek wants to increase the interest rate to %25, effectively tripling it. Erdogan reportedly made some concessions but he feels %25 is too high for him.
 

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Eventually, KKM will be terminated, it can't stay forever but I don't think it will happen in the short term.
How would that work? Religious people won't be putting their savings up for interest gains. But they will want to preserve their money's worth. So what's stopping them from buying foreign currencies and gold and, effectively, exacerbating the inflation?
 

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How would that work? Religious people won't be putting their savings up for interest gains. But they will want to preserve their money's worth. So what's stopping them from buying foreign currencies and gold and, effectively, exacerbating the inflation?
Google Islamic banking.
 

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Turkey has a Dictator indeed... not Erdogan but Kemal. At least Erdo is popular and loved by all of his voters and probably respected by some people in the Opposition too. Kemal is ridiculed and hated by the vast majority even of his own voters but still holds on to power. He lost an election that was there for the taking, he lost 40 MP seats for CHP by giving them to parties with 0.2% of the vote... and he still refuses to resign.

To be honest I start understand why a lot of people chose not to support him.
 

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