In Van, the AKP instituted a ban on gatherings, protests entry and exits to the province
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the translation is wrong. It should be "22 years of experience(or accumulation) and 22 years of struggle", not "22 years of power".
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The psuedo islamists were able to deceive half the population by using religion, an exceptionally easy gift. The other major half will be deceived using Ataturk and the great weight of that mans achievements. What's important is not what they pretend to be, but what their actions are. Both sides have openly shown themselves to be enemies of the republic and of the people. Both sides have shown themselves to be allies of the enemies of the republic like the PKK.
Not so long ago kilic was taking these photos, for him to feel so comfortably to take a photo with a pkk mouthpiece and racist who hates Turks, it shows that they see the electorate as no more then morons. They effectively hate you so much that they enjoy insulting you openly.
Unless the citizens of Turkey wise up, nothing will change except the cover of the book. What's important is that the voters start penalising these people for their transgressions and deceits. A politician shows himself aiding and abetting pkk terrorists, that's it never ever vote for him ever again. An islamist screams nothing but hate against Isreal, yet under the table business is booming, guess what? never vote for that character again. As long Turks keep letting these transgressions slide nothing will change, it will only continue to get worse. If we continue behave like mugs they will take us for mugs.
Constitutional change - 1921 constitution
It’s an immature statement. Don’t let your emotions get the better of what’s right. The issue here is disregard of the law nothing more. It is being flagrantly violated when it doesn’t fit one’s narrative. You can’t disrespect the law of democracy when it doesn’t suit your agenda then you will end up with dictatorship.. o wait hmmmm
You’re an intelligent person. We are in deep sh*t economically. We are off the charts in every category in the opposite direction. Whether it’s inflation rates or cost of living etc. US dollar will be in the 40 range in just few months if not weeks. This government ran its course and its time to end it. Give someone else a shot. Let’s try something new but with an open mind. Maybe those guys might do a better job.. if not they are easier to get rid off if it doesn’t work out for the better. Just don’t be one of those fear mongers prematurelyx.com
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Just saying, if İmamoğlu or Özel gains power in 2028, I dont see a better future for Turkey, we would be back to 2000s again, probably doing same mistakes again...
I dont want to see a 2000-2013 rewind, please!
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Those people are terrorists and each one of them should be thrown in jail
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And? AKP of 2000-2010s also had economic boom, was it worth the "Açılım"? Compromises given to US and EU?
It is a hard NO imo
great global headlines, thanks Erdogan
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When you look back even those short term gains were really about placating and deceiving the people of Turkey into compromising on dangerous issues. For a long time AK party could get away with relentless treasons because of the economy. But as we can all see as the economy melts away daily, that it was all smoke and mirrors.
Whatever short term gains were had, we now have to endure massive long term consequences. 13 million illegals under AK party years is going to make the separatism/terrorism/Islamic radicalism we had experienced in the past 100 years seem like child's play in comparison.
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What are they chimping out about?
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Akp betrayed their conservative voter base.
All they ever did was invest in Istanbul, Antalya and Izmir hoping they would get votes.
Now they lost half of the country.
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Because of those 29 who dead from fire in Istanbull building?
I hope if he has to do with it , court get sentence him at least remove from Istanbull mayor . CHP and Turkiye dont need Pkk asslickers for some voters .
Thats why those separatist get inpiration and burn everything public property when those man supports them .
If they were good politicans they would say ' I am glad that that Van pkk 'mayor' got removed' Not mentioning Demoncracy .
We are seeing demoncracy all over the world . Covid 19 when they ban us walking free that even Pharaons didnt have that power to stop people . We see demoncracy while Israeli kills 20+K kids in Palestine . US wars at middle east killing millions of civilians etc etc
I Hope Turkiye lunch major military in S east and iraq and kills as many separatist terroriat as could , At least 100k .
We dont need to feed them in prison and get realised to spread their cancer ideology , SHOOT TO KILL .
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What the fuck Turkey teach in , schools?
There is no big brain to understand that that land in S east Turkey dont belong to kurds . I was just looking at google earth and i find small island in Van lake , it was nice Armenian Ktuts monastery dating at 15 cenrury but funded since 4 century .
Do kurds know this ??
Or they are like albanians who think they are pure iliro-pillazganin since 50000 years , Fake story which Austro-hungary teaches for their goal to stop Balkan Orthodox serbia reaching adriatic sea !
At least albanians had full western prapaganda machine upon them . But those cancers who the fuck teach them ?!
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Kurds are Iranic Nomads who come from what is now Modern Day Iran.
They have spread to Turkiye, Syria, Iraq and Iran.
Kurdistan mainly comes from the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. Numerous ethnic groups in the empire wanted not just their own state but to complete their territorial irrendentism.
In the Turkish independance war we also came up against Armenian, Greek, Arab and Kurdish separatists alongside Circassian rebels who rebelled and destroyed Turkish villages.
Dont forget the Ottoman government ruling Istanbul also encouraged these revolts to quell the Turkish independance movement.
Then again Ottomans vs the Turkish national movement was more like a civil war rather than the Turks fighting for independance against the Ottoman Empire. Ankara ruling government made a speech about how they were legitmate continuation of the Ottoman state while the Istanbul government mainly the Ottoman monarchy was compromised and no ruling power over the Turks.
With this the Kurds tried to form their own Kurdistan until the rebellions got destroyed but some Ottomans Kurds became mercernaries crossed over into Iraq to fight against the British which tookover Iraq.
Its a clusterfck of epic proportions.
Every Kurdish party that serves in the Turkish parliament has links to Pkk either directly or indirectly while Huda Par has links to Kurdish Hezbollah but some say Huda Par is Kurdish Hezbollah's political wing.
Biggest thing that divides both Turkish Islamists and Kurdish Islamists is the Turkish State and Kurdistan. They may talk Pan Islamism about how being Muslims unites them while deep down issue is Turkish Islamists prefer Turkiye rather than a Kurdistan basically believe Turks should be the ones to lead rather than them. Kurdish Islamists use Saladin as an example how he led the Muslims(Turks, Arabs and Kurds) against the Crusaders.
Deep down the divide is evident.
