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[Asena_great]

The last thing they want is Turkmen independence. Just imagine if they were independent in both Syria and Iraq... It would essentially encircle Iran's Turkic population areas and they would be next to gain independence. From there a bridge to central asia would be inevitable. The world would wake up to a unified Turkic entity that would challenge the current order. Neither China, Russia nor the west wants this. Neither do their allies.

I also want to add that there's been a recent push to secularize Iran. This isn't in our interests, essentially it means that the west is ready to strengthen and support them when the time comes. This way they can act as a bulwark against Turkic expansion. I guess you could say they want to form a second, much larger and much more organized version of the SDF. All against Turkish and Turkic interests.

after the WW2 Americans firs priority was the dismantle British and French empire their second priority was to combat Pan-Arabism and their third priority was to combat communisim. the reason we don't have a Arab Super state with 475 million population is Israel. Israel divided the Arab world into 3 part north middle east south middle east and north Africa. that's why west will back Israel no matter what, even if west didn't support Israel Russia and china would

after soviet collapes you will see how west's behavior toward turkey change with PKK Fetö and adnan oktar tarkiat they first tried to stop 28 şubat generals activity toward Turkistan later with AKP they export Fetö to central asian countries and took control their education systems. but their greatest success with AKP was taking turkey toward swamp of middle east and waste a golden opportunity for better union. kurdistan and armenia have the same role for turkic world that israel have for arab world

28 şubat generals under leadership of 23rd chief of general staff Hüseyin Kıvrıkoğlu follow bitlis doctrine to prevent superpowers to take hold in syria iraq iran but after US invasion of iraq he tried to create turkmenli but Erdogan during their AKP-Fetö-PKK alliance in 2000s they helped kurds in the region to destroy turkmen demographic they armed train and funded peshmerga and YPG and leave turkmens alone when isis came.

worst when hilmi özkök become chief of general staff from 2002 to 2006 they sold turkmens to the kurds and after erdogan opened kozmik oda name of all the turkmens working with 28 şubat generals reviled and later they got killed by peshmerga. and hilmi özkök sold all the Hüseyin Kıvrıkoğlu men in iraq during çuval olayi he also took back all the fetö members that was fired from army during 28 şubat
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@GoatsMilk @Heartbang @Ryder

sinan oğan stateing AKP taking 1.5 million syrians but when turkmens came they asked for passport and let turkmen women to be raped and be sold in isis's slave market. i remember ahmet Davutoglu called isis as " not terrorist but angery youth "

i still remember when sinan oğan in tv said turkmens are our kardaş there was a AKPli guy who said why is turkmens are your kardaş but kurdmens are not ?? are you racist ??

 

[Lool]

Maybe Assad should send this guy a postcard, he looks upset.

Kalın'ın Emevi Camii'nde kıldığı namaz Özgür Özel'i rahatsız etti! Skandal sözler

CHP Genel Başkanı Özgür Özel, Suriye'deki 61 yıllık Baas rejiminin devrilmesinin ardından Şam'a giden MİT Başkanı İbrahim Kalın'ın Emevi Camii'nde

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Cut the guy some slack bro... he is screwed

One of the main power cards of the CHP, that is the refugees, has been burned and in the worst way possible which is AKP liberating 70% of Syrian lands and keeping it under Erdo's thumb. That improved Erdo's picture in the domestic arena while the CHP cant use this card anymore to woo in voters

The CHP is now scrambling and carrying out information warfare to try and reduce the side-effect of recent events in order to preserve the CHP's voter share since the difference between the AKP and CHP is an average of 1.5 points according to recent polls which is insane considering how bad the economy is rn and proves just how bad the CHP is in general

The polls for late December will probably show improvements in voter sentiments towards AKP after what they did in Syria; thus, closing the 1.5 difference if not even ending with an edge compared to the CHP

Ozgur Ozel is so stressed that he even further screwed up and said that Ataturk had it easy because he had no whatsapp or twitter and even questioned whether the YPG should be considered as terrorists when they raised the revolutionnaries plans. Even Imamoglu and his pro-DEM cadres have been criticising Erdogan for the act of raising the Turkish flag in Ummayad mosque and the historic Aleppo castle even though Turkey/ottomans did rule this land once

If Erdo even managed to liberate the remaining 30% of Syria, expect more bullshit accusations and fake news by the CHP to mitigate the damage caused to their power base as Erdo's popularity will soar again since not only did Erdo returned the refugees but created a so-called "vassal" state known as Syria with 30 million people that Turkey could use at any moment. In other words, the AKP will appear as restoring Turkey's imperial heritage and influence to its peak, as in the Ottoman period, within the domestic political field

Sources:
Translation:
We have really held out very well up until now, I wish sanity to everyone who hopes for help from them. These guys are out of their minds. They get angry at the man praying in the Umayyad mosque, they say will he see PYD as an organization etc. May God give them sanity and patience to their fans.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1867255703200837956

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1867448025594974319

 

[Lool]

Cut the guy some slack bro... he is screwed

One of the main power cards of the CHP, that is the refugees, has been burned and in the worst way possible which is AKP liberating 70% of Syrian lands and keeping it under Erdo's thumb. That improved Erdo's picture in the domestic arena while the CHP cant use this card anymore to woo in voters

The CHP is now scrambling and carrying out information warfare to try and reduce the side-effect of recent events in order to preserve the CHP's voter share since the difference between the AKP and CHP is an average of 1.5 points according to recent polls which is insane considering how bad the economy is rn and proves just how bad the CHP is in general

The polls for late December will probably show improvements in voter sentiments towards AKP after what they did in Syria; thus, closing the 1.5 difference if not even ending with an edge compared to the CHP

Ozgur Ozel is so stressed that he even further screwed up and said that Ataturk had it easy because he had no whatsapp or twitter and even questioned whether the YPG should be considered as terrorists when they raised the revolutionnaries plans. Even Imamoglu and his pro-DEM cadres have been criticising Erdogan for the act of raising the Turkish flag in Ummayad mosque and the historic Aleppo castle even though Turkey/ottomans did rule this land once

If Erdo even managed to liberate the remaining 30% of Syria, expect more bullshit accusations and fake news by the CHP to mitigate the damage caused to their power base as Erdo's popularity will soar again since not only did Erdo returned the refugees but created a so-called "vassal" state known as Syria with 30 million people that Turkey could use at any moment. In other words, the AKP will appear as restoring Turkey's imperial heritage and influence to its peak, as in the Ottoman period, within the domestic political field

Sources:
Translation:
We have really held out very well up until now, I wish sanity to everyone who hopes for help from them. These guys are out of their minds. They get angry at the man praying in the Umayyad mosque, they say will he see PYD as an organization etc. May God give them sanity and patience to their fans.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1867255703200837956

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1867448025594974319

Here is another example of western and pro-CHP sources spreading misinformation about Erdogan claiming that he wants to annex Syria while the actual full footage shows nothing other than compassion, love, and brotherhood between the Turkish and Syrian people

Expect the CHP and western media to spread more and more disinformation in order to prevent the public from liking what Erdogan did in Syria and reduce the damage inflicted upon the CHP core voter base

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1867807557118575021

 

[dBSPL]

“Since 2017, the number of civil servants increased from 3.6 million to 5.2 million.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1868929218526286095

The number of personnel of public administrations covered by the general budget is 3 million 550 thousand. The total number of civil servants is 5 million 238 thousand. My view is that at least 1.5 million civil servants are over-employed. Unfortunately, the remaining 80 million people of the country carry these 1.5 million people on their backs. I am not only talking about gross salaries, but all the services and vehicles allocated to senior staff and administrators should also be included in this waste.

 

[TheInsider]

Easy money for AKP party members, youth, and women organizations.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1874796982168117553

 

[Rooxbar]

The situation in Syria ceteris paribus can be managed in the long run due to the mandates of geography and demographics; but the ceteris paribus clause concerns the domestic negotiations to disband the PKK. If the PKK disbands de jure (even if not de facto), you can't go around saying there's PKK in Syria and they are a security threat to us; "you just helped disband it yourselves" would be the natural answer.

 

[Scott Summers]

Here is another example of western and pro-CHP sources spreading misinformation about Erdogan claiming that he wants to annex Syria while the actual full footage shows nothing other than compassion, love, and brotherhood between the Turkish and Syrian people

Expect the CHP and western media to spread more and more disinformation in order to prevent the public from liking what Erdogan did in Syria and reduce the damage inflicted upon the CHP core voter base

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1867807557118575021

CHP is the cancer virus in the lungs of Turkey.

That harry potter look-a-like Özgür Özel (his name means Freedom Special, clearly a American spawn) is still stating that we should talk with Assad, even if he is in Mosqow.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

AKP's Mehmet Metiner: “DEM, which is under the control of Assad remnants, should be liquidated and a pro-Öcalan DEM Party should be established.”

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1876203253228306831

Did he really say this?

 

[Tornadoss]

CHP is the cancer virus in the lungs of Turkey.

That harry potter look-a-like Özgür Özel (his name means Freedom Special, clearly a American spawn) is still stating that we should talk with Assad, even if he is in Mosqow.

Same as akp and mhp

 

[Asena_great]

 

[AlperTunga]

CHP, AKP, MHP none of them any good for Turkey. AKP seems more nationalist than CHP but their mistakes both domestically and internationally are enormous, so they are a bigger threat to Turkey in my opinion. But actually they did most of the damage already. I think some combination of Yavuz Agiralioglu, Sinan Ogan, Ümit Özdag, Turhan Cömez, Muharrem Ince and a few people from IYI parti seem to be the best choice. But not sure I'd keep this list if I get to know them more deeply.

It is a pity that this country has been managed so badly since 1938. When you come from Europe you see what Turks have done to themselves. Turks are their own biggest enemy. Otherwise, how can you explain children being torn apart by stray dogs. Is there any other country like this in the world?

 

[CAN_TR]

Türkiye's problem is that both the ruling party and the main opposition are trash to put it nicely, the reason why AKP lost Istanbul, Ankara etc. is not because CHP is great but because AKP is messing around with everything for a decade.

Our main opposition is so dumb and useless that they couldn't win the last election, which literally was a penalty without a goalkeeper.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Holy shit... also keep in mind that this account was quite pro-gov until recently.


"The Constitutional Court ruled to annul the law that punishes "those who are not members of the organization but commit crimes on behalf of the organization" as if they were members of the organization."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1877129418776158357

 

[Lool]

Holy shit... also keep in mind that this account was quite pro-gov until recently.


"The Constitutional Court ruled to annul the law that punishes "those who are not members of the organization but commit crimes on behalf of the organization" as if they were members of the organization."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1877129418776158357

Are they trying to go back into the 2002-2013 era again?

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Are they trying to go back into the 2002-2013 era again?

Even worse than that

 

[Lool]

I am not posting this to defend one party or accuse another party.
I just want to say it doesn't matter which party, they are all the same sh*t.
Welcome to Türkiye.

Dün başka bugün başka! Tanju Özcan'ın 'yetki' çarkı

Kartalkaya'daki felaketin ardından yanan otelin yetki alanlarında olmadığını söyleyen CHP'li Tanju Özcan, bugün ise otelin restoran bölümüne

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There is nothing to say other than f**k both the CHP and the AKP. Those parties are soo corrupt yet portray themselves as saints

It is just so bad when the mayor says that my fire department found the hotel to be a fire hazard but I didnt report it because it isnt my job. In other words, Tanju Ozcan and his municipality knew beforehand that some Turks were going to their death site while he didnt give a shit by saying "why should I report it? It isnt my job" and on top of all of that they didnt have the decency to apologise to the nation

It is also so bad when the Ministry of Tourism's laws have a loophole that businesses use to bypass safety measures and obtain permits and on top of all of that, they didnt have the decency to apologise to the nation

It is even worse when the corrupt hotel's board of directors have ties to both the CHP and AKP top cadres.

It is even kinda ironic that the CHP, who criticised the AKP for appointing family members in positions of power, turmed out to be doing the exact same thing while appointing high ranking municipal positions and in tenders

The future of the country looks bleak with those people in charge either from the CHP or AKP. Truly the saying: "Pot calling the kettle black" fits the scenario

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

The government is going on an arresting spree.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1884286117060518185

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1884219568857702508

 

[Lool]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1884286117060518185

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1884219568857702508

Never liked Umit Ozdag or Imamoglu as I believe that both of them are nothing more than opportunists as well as parasites. However, I do agree that Erdogan is literally destroying the party with his own hands

What is the use of arresting Umit Ozdag when the AKP administration knows that it will just make them lose votes and giving Zafer party and CHP more votes

If the AKP believes that the peace process with the Ocalan will work and the PKK will disband then they are in for a rude awakening since the PKK is nthing more than a Western project aimed at destabilising Turkey, Syria, and Iraq.

If the PKK cant use the kurdish excuse anymore, then they will change their name for the fourth time and find another excuse to continue exsting

On the other hand though, I think that the AKP's top administration arent that retarded (hopefully); thus, I think that the recent wide spectrum of arrests are for a reason (again hopefully). It just doesnt make sense to go after municipal leaders, then journalists, and then high ranking individuals of different parties at the same time

 

[Fairon]

The government is going on an arresting spree.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1884286117060518185

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1884219568857702508

Interesting things are happening.

One can't help but wonder what this preparation is all for.