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Ali Bal, a FETÖ member who confessed to involvement:

"The first students were admitted to the Air Force in 1974. If 500 students graduate, all 500 are members of the organization."

"As far as I know, this is just the Air Force's NCO structure in Ankara. There's also an officer structure, a land force structure, a naval structure, a National Intelligence Organization (MİT) structure, and a gendarmerie structure."

"There's also a doctor, judge, and prosecutor structure... and so on..."

"Just imagine what would have happened to the personnel who entered the Air Force between 1974 and 2015."


Where are all the FETÖ members that Erdoğan supposedly brought into the army? Apparently, those who became generals before 2002 aren't considered FETÖ members.
 

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Ali Bal, a FETÖ member who confessed to involvement:

"The first students were admitted to the Air Force in 1974. If 500 students graduate, all 500 are members of the organization."

Apparently, those who became generals before 2002 aren't considered FETÖ members.



On the 10th anniversary of July 15th, let me take you back to 1986, the symbolic year of FETÖ's infiltration of the Turkish Armed Forces. That year, an operation was launched at the Bursa Işıklar, Istanbul Kuleli, and İzmir Maltepe military high schools on the grounds that Fethullahist structures were present and exam questions had been stolen.

The operation began on the orders of the then Chief of General Staff, Necdet Üruğ. Students who answered all the questions correctly, especially the Turkish questions, were interrogated one by one.

The result was horrific. Fethullahists had infiltrated hundreds of students into military schools.
One of the people conducting the investigation was Yaşar Büyükanıt, the then commander of Kuleli Military High School.

As a result of the investigation, some of those who named Fethullahists were expelled, but the majority continued in their positions.

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In the early years of Erdoğan's rule, we had a Chief of General Staff who was a member of FETÖ. Who was fighting against FETÖ? The Kemalist generals or Erdoğan?
 

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In the early years of Erdoğan's rule, we had a Chief of General Staff who was a member of FETÖ. Who was fighting against FETÖ? The Kemalist generals or Erdoğan?

Don't make me start.

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Tell me why AKP repeatedly rejects the oppositions request for an investigation into FETÖs political wing?
 

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You can't take on a gang that occupied every corner of the country randomely, you can only do that when they make the deadly mistake and expose themselves.
 

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The FETÖ organization maintained its activities covertly and underground until Erdoğan's rise to power. Under Erdoğan's presidency, they exposed themselves without being able to bring their years of investments into the light of day.


In 2008, while the Ergenekon investigations were ongoing, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan used the phrase, "I am the prosecutor of this case." These words, uttered in response to then-opposition leader Deniz Baykal declaring himself the "lawyer" of these cases, became a subject of intense debate in the following years.

Erdoğan obviously put in jail Turkish officers who were the targets of fetö bitches.
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Don't make me start.

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Tell me why AKP repeatedly rejects the oppositions request for an investigation into FETÖs political wing?
If they are the ones in power, then "being nice to the bear" is essential until you cross the bridge. If you declare war on them from day one, you'll end up like Muhsin Yazıcıoğlu, killed in the mountains. No one will even come to your aid. You can't attack windmills like Don Quixote with power you don't possess.
 

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If they are the ones in power, then "being nice to the bear" is essential until you cross the bridge. If you declare war on them from day one, you'll end up like Muhsin Yazıcıoğlu, killed in the mountains. No one will even come to your aid. You can't attack windmills like Don Quixote with power you don't possess.
Until Erdoğan , fetö just secretly put their people in army and in government. Under the Erdoğan presidency fetö was able to get rid of nationalists . FETÖ could openly make war against nationalists.
Erdoğan gave them this opportunity. Erdoğan declared publicly himself as a prosecutor of FETÖ!

Erdoğan hadn't had problem with FETÖ until FETÖ sold him.

Erdoğan would keep anti-fetö - nationalist officers in jail if FETÖ would not attempted coup. Totally he had been satisfied with the punishment of Turkish officers.
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Until Erdoğan , fetö just secretly put their people in army and in government. Under the Erdoğan presidency fetö was able to get rid of nationalists . FETÖ could openly make war against nationalists.
Erdoğan gave them this opportunity. Erdoğan declared publicly himself as a prosecutor of FETÖ!

Erdoğan hadn't had problem with FETÖ until FETÖ sold him.

Erdoğan would keep anti-fetö - nationalist officers in jail if FETÖ would not attempted coup. Totally he had been satisfied with the punishment of Turkish officers.
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So what were those Kemalist officers doing until Erdoğan came to power? They were collaborating with FETÖ. The February 28th coup was carried out jointly by FETÖ members and Kemalist officers.


In 1995, Chief of General Staff İsmail Hakkı Karadayı welcomed FETÖ members with a red carpet.

When Erdoğan came to power, the army had surrendered to FETÖ; FETÖ had even produced its own Chief of General Staff. Erdoğan was the only one capable of fighting FETÖ. And when the time came, he did what was necessary.
 

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So what were those Kemalist officers doing until Erdoğan came to power? They were collaborating with FETÖ. The February 28th coup was carried out jointly by FETÖ members and Kemalist officers.


In 1995, Chief of General Staff İsmail Hakkı Karadayı welcomed FETÖ members with a red carpet.

When Erdoğan came to power, the army had surrendered to FETÖ; FETÖ had even produced its own Chief of General Staff. Erdoğan was the only one capable of fighting FETÖ. And when the time came, he did what was necessary.
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Erdoğan both held those responsible for the "February 28 postmodern" coup accountable and prevented the FETÖ-affiliated Chief of General Staff, relying on the Kemalist officers behind him, from "rebalancing" the state on April 27, 2007. He did this by purging Kemalist officers through FETÖ. Thus, the Kemalist officers were unable to cooperate with FETÖ again, as they had done on February 28.
 

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Divide and Conquer, that's all I see when the 2 retarded sites are arguing. Ya'll are the same shit with a different smell.
 

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On the 10th anniversary of July 15th, let me take you back to 1986, the symbolic year of FETÖ's infiltration of the Turkish Armed Forces. That year, an operation was launched at the Bursa Işıklar, Istanbul Kuleli, and İzmir Maltepe military high schools on the grounds that Fethullahist structures were present and exam questions had been stolen.

The operation began on the orders of the then Chief of General Staff, Necdet Üruğ. Students who answered all the questions correctly, especially the Turkish questions, were interrogated one by one.

The result was horrific. Fethullahists had infiltrated hundreds of students into military schools.
One of the people conducting the investigation was Yaşar Büyükanıt, the then commander of Kuleli Military High School.

As a result of the investigation, some of those who named Fethullahists were expelled, but the majority continued in their positions.

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  • Term of office: 28 August 2006 – 28 August 2008
  • Preceded by: Hilmi Özkök
  • Succeeded by: İlker Başbuğ



Commander of the Turkish Land Forces
  • Term of office: 29 August 2004 – 25 August 2006
  • Preceded by: Aytaç Yalman
  • Succeeded by: İlker Başbuğ



Commander of the First Army
  • Term of office: 20 August 2003 – 20 August 2004
  • Preceded by: Çetin Doğan
  • Succeeded by: Hurşit Tolon



Deputy Chief of the Turkish General Staff
  • Term of office: 30 August 2000 – 30 August 2003
  • Preceded by: Edip Başer
  • Succeeded by: İlker Başbuğ

In the early years of Erdoğan's rule, we had a Chief of General Staff who was a member of FETÖ. Who was fighting against FETÖ? The Kemalist generals or Erdoğan?
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I couldn't figure out who was shameless. Who has become shameless: the FETÖ members who carried out the February 28 coup together with Kemalist officers, or us? But tell the truth! Back then, ruling the country together with FETÖ seemed very appealing, didn't it?

What do you mean when you say "Kemalist"? Speak a bit more clearly. I hope you are aware that you are talking about Gazi Mustafa Kemal Atatürk
 

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What do you mean when you say "Kemalist"? Speak a bit more clearly. I hope you are aware that you are talking about Gazi Mustafa Kemal Atatürk
Don't take the topic out of context. I have no problem with Atatürk. I have a problem with the traitorous terrorists who wear Atatürk masks.

Everyone here knows who carried out the February 28 coup. But instead of acknowledging the traitors who wear Atatürk masks, you're deflecting the issue and trying to evade responsibility.
 
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I couldn't figure out who was shameless. Who has become shameless: the FETÖ members who carried out the February 28 coup together with Kemalist officers, or us? But tell the truth! Back then, ruling the country together with FETÖ seemed very appealing, didn't it?
And DGM filed a case against Feto in 2000, arrest warrant was issued and the court acquitted Gülen, ruling that the evidence was insufficient to establish the alleged crime.
And should we forgot Ozal era where Feto expand its footprint and how its influence peaked during akp era especially with the Ergenekon and Balyoz? If there wasn't power struggle between 2 they would still be continuing.
 

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And DGM filed a case against Feto in 2000, arrest warrant was issued and the court acquitted Gülen, ruling that the evidence was insufficient to establish the alleged crime.
And should we forgot Ozal era where Feto expand its footprint and how its influence peaked during akp era especially with the Ergenekon and Balyoz? If there wasn't power struggle between 2 they would still be continuing.
The case opened at the DGM (State Security Court) was worthless. Because a part of the state had already been seized by them. They could interfere as they wished with the "evidence," and use honey traps to influence the judges.
 

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The infiltration of the military was noticed in 1986, but...

The year is 1986. The place is Istanbul Naval High School. According to a report by İrfan Bozan from Al Jazeera, first-year students of the Naval High School, who had completed their adaptation process, were gathered in a classroom. The school commander was standing before them. The school commander addressed the students as follows: “Now I will distribute a piece of paper to each of you. There are some questions on this paper. Answer all of these questions honestly and sincerely. Don't worry, nothing will happen to anyone based on your answers. None of you will be expelled from school.”

The astonished students turned over the papers and encountered some questions. Some of the questions were:

“Do you read the magazine Sızıntı?”

"Does anyone in your family read the magazine 'The Leak'?

Was there 'someone' who guided you to come to this school?"

" Papers were collected that included questions from which clues about the families' religiosity could be obtained. After a while, a significant number of first-year high school students were expelled.

The person who answered the questions and recounted his experience 30 years later doesn't remember exactly how many were expelled, but uses the phrase "quite a few."

OPERATION IN MILITARY HIGH SCHOOLS

The expulsions from military schools targeting the Gülen Community, then known as "Fethullahists," were frequently reported in the newspapers. The February 15, 1987 issue of Nokta Magazine, one of the influential news magazines of the time, featured the headline "Second Operation in Military Schools" on its cover, stating that "Fethullahist" students had been expelled from military schools since October 1986.

1986 was a critical year for the Fethullah Gülen Community. Fethullah Gülen, who had been living as a fugitive since the 1980 coup, gave a statement in Burdur that year and was released from prison.

Recently, Ankara Cumhuriyet... The indictment against the "Main Gülen Organization," completed by the Chief Prosecutor's Office, stated that the "Gülen Organization" had been attempting to organize within the Turkish Armed Forces since 1971, and included the following findings:

"Initially small, this number increased over the years, and these activities intensified after 1984. Many of these students placed within the Turkish Armed Forces during that period are currently staff colonels or generals."

Ahmet Zeki Üçok, the Military Prosecutor of the Air Force Command and the only person within the Turkish Armed Forces to conduct an official investigation into the Fethullah Gülen movement, stated in an interview with Ahmet Hakan of Hürriyet in April 2016, referring to those same years: "In 1986, when Yaşar Büyükanıt was the Commander of Kuleli Military High School, approximately 250 students answered all the Turkish language questions correctly on the military high school entrance exams. An investigation revealed that the questions had been stolen by the movement and given to these students. About 50-60 of these students were expelled. The rest were not expelled, with the thought that 'we might win them over'."

Yes, there should be no doubt anymore that Yaşar Büyükanıt covered up that investigation.
 

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So why FETÖ brought AKP and Erdoğan in.power? And why Erdoğan said he was the prosecutor of Erdoğan?
 

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So why FETÖ brought AKP and Erdoğan in.power? And why Erdoğan said he was the prosecutor of Erdoğan?
FETÖ's excessive arrogance led them to believe they could control Erdoğan. The Ergenekon trials were originally initiated to hold those responsible for the February 28 coup accountable. However, FETÖ's approach to the matter with different agendas caused the process to spiral out of control.

As a result, with the July 15 coup attempt, everyone within the state who wasn't involved with FETÖ was forced, even reluctantly, to accept that only Erdoğan could lead this fight.

Meanwhile, before July 15, the National Intelligence Organization (MİT) did not have the authority to conduct investigations within the Turkish Armed Forces (TSK). This authority was granted after the coup attempt.

To say that Erdoğan protected them when there was a FETÖ-affiliated Chief of General Staff in 2004 is to treat people as fools.
 
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