TR Politics

[Anastasius]

It's obviously aimed at refugees and illegal migrants and I suspect will be applied in such a manner too no matter what the official text says. The thing is, European and Western nationals (or ones from countries such as South Korea or Japan) residing in Turkey can be expected to be, at the very least, civilized and behave themselves respectfully and generally upholding the laws of the land. The same cannot be said of migrants that illegally crossed the border, who are more likely than not to be the absolute worst. I am not saying that Arabs that are legally here, invited to work or study, qualify but uncivilized trash that rape children, kill animals for amusement and attack citizens and disrespect the country are most likely gonna feel the heat here.

It would be catastrophically stupid to do otherwise, as it means foreign investment into the city would dry up almost immediately. Say you had nationals from Spain or Italy or Poland, such a law targeting them would mean loss of the value they provide, which is why I don't think it's gonna target them.

 

[mulj]

These NGOs are wreaking havoc all over the world. I've already seen what they've done to the west, and I don't want the same to happen to Turkey.

Isolated western nations such as the UK, New Zealand, Australia, the USA and Canada are okay for now. But the demographic change and the massive impact on the social fabric of these nations caused by NGOs is very dangerous in the long run. All my friends from overseas say that things have gotten a lot worse as the percentage of foreigners increases.

If we look at what NGOs have tried to achieve in Turkey, it's quite scary. They are pushing for ethnic separatism under the guise of human rights, changes to the social fabric of the nation with things like LGBT, and they are also trying to erode secularism.

There was a document from the 90s which revealed that the USA wanted a multipronged approach to remove the Kemalist military and reinstate so-called "democracy". NGOs, FETO and AKP achieved this.

I hope we see the day when these traitors get punished.

I feel you concerns but disagree with corelation about feto and akp, they are internal product of your society it is unfair to put on their shoulders whole world wide events impacts on their shoulders, especially on akp.

 

[Tonyukuk]

I feel you concerns but disagree with corelation about feto and akp, they are internal product of your society it is unfair to put on their shoulders whole world wide events impacts on their shoulders, especially on akp.

AKP and FETO purged the military together (Ergenekon Trials). Erdogan himself stated that he was supporter of the trials...

AKP is infested with former FETO members. Just recently, an member of AKP who said that Turks should leave the country instead of Syrians, turned out to have been a FETO supporter...

 

[Ryder]

Tanju Ozcan and Can Dundar are beefing on twitter.

 

[Tonyukuk]

Tanju Ozcan and Can Dundar are beefing on twitter.

Yep. and it looks like Tanju Ozcan is winning.

 

[Ryder]

Yep. and it looks like Tanju Ozcan is winning.

He called Can Dundar a coward for running away and a vatansiz

Gotta love Turkish debates

 

[TheInsider]

We need more people like Tanju Özcan inside CHP. We don't need servants of the TESEV foundation like Tunç Soyer.

 

[TheInsider]

You'd end up being hated more than Israel if videos start popping up of guards hosing refugees with gunfire, that's not the way.

Also I should add, if the problem is this bad now, what's the plan when Climate Refugees start coming?

Notice the migration routes mapped in 2015. Turkey will be a huge focal point for climate refugees from the middle east and asia.

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That's if Turkey doesn't turn into a desert by then:

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That is one of the most bullshit maps I have ever seen. There won't be desertification in TR. What will happen is tropicalization. TR is covered with huge bodies of water from 3 sides. Water+heat=more humidity. There might be some desertification in the southeast and in a small area at the very center of the Anatolian plateau but overall precipitation will increase especially in the north.

 

[Akhtar]

That is one of the most bullshit maps I have ever seen. There won't be desertification in TR. What will happen is tropicalization. TR is covered with huge bodies of water from 3 sides. Water+heat=more humidity. There might be some desertification in the southeast and in a small area at the very center of the Anatolian plateau but overall precipitation will increase especially in the north.

But the trend is drier:

Turkey's land rehabilitation combats drought, desertification

Facing the fallout of climate change, the country has intensified its efforts to improve its land and fight erosion with mass planting and other measures....

www.dailysabah.com

Joking, I would not use daily sabah as a source:

Google Scholar

scholar.google.com

Turkey is at risk for it not just sue to drier conditions.

 

[Akhtar]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1419864493169971200

Of course the AKP trend will go this way. Who will they vote for? AKP.

 

[CAN_TR]

Fascist here, fascist there… do these imbeciles actually know what fascism is?

 

[Ryder]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1419864493169971200

Of course the AKP trend will go this way. Who will they vote for? AKP.

BUCK BREAKING

 

[Deliorman]

If loving your nation makes you a fascists then sign me in.

 

[Akhtar]

Interesting discussion on Tanriverdi's role on neutering the army's role in politics

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1420153812954886146

 

[Anastasius]

Interesting discussion on Tanriverdi's role on neutering the army's role in politics

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1420153812954886146

Tweet got deleted.

 

[LegionnairE]

Is this what you are referring to?

'Fascist' Turkish mayor to charge Syrians with tenfold water bill

Tanju Özcan, the controversial mayor of the northern Turkish province of Bolu, has defied calls to restrain his anti-refugee policies again and plans to...

www.dailysabah.com

Exactly. Not the hero we deserve but the hero we need at the moment.

What a legend.

Pay no mind to salafist demagogues. Reaction of the people to his words is OVERWHELMINGLY positive.

 

[Tonyukuk]

Listen to what's being said. I left Islam long ago when I realised what is going on.

 

[KKF 2.0]

Oh my God...this forum is turning into a meme...

 

[Tonyukuk]

Oh my God...this forum is turning into a meme...

Nation's full of Syrians and Afghans and the government just wants more and more. And now they have the audacity to call those who have had enough "fascists". I'd say that Turkey has turned into a meme. I hope Kazakhstan doesn't end up like Turkey. Funny how 15 years ago it was my homeland Kazakhstan which was a meme because of Borat. Turkey was doing good back then... Now it's the opposite. The leadership has f*cked beloved Turkey up from within and the nation has become joke.

If it wasn't for the defence industry, I would have lost all hope. It is the only area where we are doing good.

 

[Saithan]

We are not blessed with the cards in our hands.

Well Turkey should only be a place for those who wants to work and contribute (who are not Turk). I imagine that we'd have to tighten security in all cities and everywhere. to begin with. Do not tolerate any immigrants outside camps etc. register who they are and escort them back.

Once internal security level has been raised. Start unfunding camps you want removed. Do so according to the security level and burden etc.

Troublemakers should be deported to safe zones outside Turkey and their return to Turkey prohibited.

This needs to be implemented with military precision so it's necessary to have retired generals, colonels etc. do this.

Just look at how Greece gets away with pushbacks. We would have an easier time deporting troublemakers and should do so. Tbh I don't know if it's being done, and done properly, but I doubt that very much considering the lack of news about it. Because it would be good propoganda material to get votes.

EDIT: I should add that unfunding camps should be done quickly so EU will have to fund the camps, the internal security should make life hell so refugees either choose EU or elsewhere.