TR Propulsion Systems

[mTT]

What is happening? When did they make ther own engine? It is a good thing i am happy but i am surprised tooo

Haluk Bayraktar "We are developing a domestic engine for TB2"
21/06/2024

Haluk Bayraktar: “TB2 için yerli motor geliştiriyoruz” – Tolga Özbek

tolgaozbek.com

 

[TheInsider]

Well, I told you. Don't be surprised if Baykar delivers the first TB2 UAV with the TM100 engine this year.

 

[Agha Sher]

Well, I told you. Don't be surprised if Baykar delivers the first TB2 UAV with the TM100 engine this year.

Do we know the specs of the engine and how it compares to the competition?

 

[Anastasius]

Haluk Bayraktar "We are developing a domestic engine for TB2"
21/06/2024

Haluk Bayraktar: “TB2 için yerli motor geliştiriyoruz” – Tolga Özbek

tolgaozbek.com

A year is still pretty quick though.

 

[TheInsider]

Baykar engineers didn't develop it from scratch; they used COTS components. 50 different companies are involved with the project as component suppliers. There are also several foreign companies. If I'm not mistaken Bosch is one of them.

 

[TheInsider]

Do we know the specs of the engine and how it compares to the competition?

It is comparable/slightly better than the Rotax engine currently used with TB2.

 

[Saithan]

Still impressive, but let's hope the benefits of these investments will cast off better R&D from the companies involved.

 

[mTT]

Do we know the specs of the engine and how it compares to the competition?

No official explanation has been made regarding the motor specifications.

"Bayraktar emphasized that in the design of the newly developed domestic engine, the shortcomings of the Rotax 912 engine were taken into consideration and development was carried out accordingly, expressing that the aim was to address these deficiencies in the domestic engine."


It could be a more advanced engine than the Rotax 912.

 

[TheInsider]

It has better altitude performance compared to Rotax, this is the main difference.

 

[Agha Sher]

No official explanation has been made regarding the motor specifications.

"Bayraktar emphasized that in the design of the newly developed domestic engine, the shortcomings of the Rotax 912 engine were taken into consideration and development was carried out accordingly, expressing that the aim was to address these deficiencies in the domestic engine."


It could be a more advanced engine than the Rotax 912.

It has better altitude performance compared to Rotax, this is the main difference.

Hopefullty TM100 can grap a significant share of the civilian market as well. If it can outcompete Rotax by being better and cheaper it could over the next decade become a huge export success for Turkiye.

 

[Zoth]

Hopefullty TM100 can grap a significant share of the civilian market as well. If it can outcompete Rotax by being better and cheaper it could over the next decade become a huge export success for Turkiye.

Even if it doesn't end up being an export success, it seems that it's mostly made domestically, with collaboration of multiple Turkish companies, which is more important since the money for the engine will stay at home and boost the defence industry even more, regardless it's a very positive turn.

 

[Agha Sher]

Even if it doesn't end up being an export success, it seems that it's mostly made domestically, with collaboration of multiple Turkish companies, which is more important since the money for the engine will stay at home and boost the defence industry even more, regardless it's a very positive turn.

I agree, but for Turkiye to continue massive R&D investments in the field of engines, it would help if the developed engines becomes cash cows.

 

[TheInsider]

BTW, TM100 can't be used for civilian aircraft as it needs to undergo a certification process for that.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

BTW, TM100 can't be used for civilian aircraft as it needs to undergo a certification process for that.

What's stopping it from getting such certification?

 

[Oublious]

What's stopping it from getting such certification?

First they need it for the drones maybe when they finished the project they could go as a alternatif against the Rotax what will be a game changer because off used by TB2. Certification will take time, look to the TS1400 will be ready in 2028 when certifiation is finished.

 

[boredaf]

What's stopping it from getting such certification?

What exactly are they going to use it for?

 

[Strong AI]

What exactly are they going to use it for?

To sell it to civilian aircraft manufacturers?

 

[Fuzuli NL]

What exactly are they going to use it for?

Export for small propeller aircraft.

 

[boredaf]

To sell it to civilian aircraft manufacturers?

Export for small propeller aircraft.

Why would anyone prefer that over the plentiful, already established engines with already working production lines? This is an engine made with over the counter stuff, not some miracle and it would be entering an already crowded field and not just with countries that are sanction happy.

 

[Oublious]

Why would anyone prefer that over the plentiful, already established engines with already working production lines? This is an engine made with over the counter stuff, not some miracle and it would be entering an already crowded field and not just with countries that are sanction happy.

Sorry, based on ther Rotax engine experiences they make a engine that is stronger and more economical people will buy it.