TR Propulsion Systems

[Radonsider]

What about DSI and Thrust Vectoring? Should we expect the best tech for the TFX

DSI, no (because you can't implement DSI to that specs)
TVC, maybe

 

[Ecderha]

I post specific time based video about Question asked to TEI general manager Mr.Prof. Dr. Mahmut Faruk
Question:
What were/are price differences when Turkiye have requested to buy engine before and now when Turkiye made own engine

WEST decreased the price of engines with 40% if Turkiye have already have developed own engine in the same class
M...F.....s

 

[what]

Just basic economics, demand and supply.
High demand, few suppliers = higher price
High demand, but more suppliers = lower price.

Nothing extraordinary about it.


What is remarkable and actual news, is that he said that there are other engines that are already in use that they can not talk about.

 

[Ecderha]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1568518315542474752

 

[Combat-Master]

Any ideas as to what engine that is at TÜBİTAK RUTE stand @ InnoTrans2022

 

[Baris]

BV160 Engine for trains?

 

[Siper>MMU]

Any ideas as to what engine that is at TÜBİTAK RUTE stand @ InnoTrans2022
View attachment 47917

Tubitaks 1200hp engine project.

 

[NitricAcid]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1572897684150947841

 

[Cabatli_TR]

British MFA: "(MMU) Turkiye is a NATO country, Rolls Royce is a British company and we are proud of it. I am happy to see our friends around the world working with these great companies"

It seems that RR is coming to work with Turkish companies for the engine of MMU.

 

[Radonsider]

Finally some good news

 

[Nutuk]

That's an early conclusion you draw before the tender has begun

 

[Radonsider]

From İsmail Demir's statements

"Kale ve Rolls-Royce ortaklığının teklifini bekledik. Biraz süre uzatmak gerekti. Onların teklifinin daha somutlaştırılmasıyla ilgili süre vermemiz gerekti, onu bekliyoruz. O geldiğinde daha net bir değerlendirme yapabileceğiz."

"We waited for the offer of Kale and Rolls-Royce partnership. It took some time to extend. We had to give some more time to make their proposal more concrete, we are waiting for it. When they hand it, we will be able to make a clearer assessment."


Seems like they are going to choose Kale+RR if they don't offer a sh*tty engine or conditions.
Otherwise they would have just selected TRMotor/TEI without waiting

 

[Fighter_35]

From İsmail Demir's statements

"Kale ve Rolls-Royce ortaklığının teklifini bekledik. Biraz süre uzatmak gerekti. Onların teklifinin daha somutlaştırılmasıyla ilgili süre vermemiz gerekti, onu bekliyoruz. O geldiğinde daha net bir değerlendirme yapabileceğiz."

"We waited for the offer of Kale and Rolls-Royce partnership. It took some time to extend. We had to give some more time to make their proposal more concrete, we are waiting for it. When they hand it, we will be able to make a clearer assessment."


Seems like they are going to choose Kale+RR if they don't offer a sh*tty engine or conditions.
Otherwise they would have just selected TRMotor/TEI without waiting

Even if rolls Royce kale engine chosen, we should continue our own engine development separately with budget from state

 

[Radonsider]

Even if rolls Royce kale engine chosen, we should continue our own engine development separately with budget from state

I agree, maybe we can get an engine suitable for exports around 2032/35 so this will eliminate the need for IP rights of RR+Kale

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Ismail Demir also mentioned a partnership between TEI and TrMotor which may include Kale. If such a situation happens, it means that RR, Kale, TEI and TrMotor will all work together in the national turbofan engine project.

 

[Lool]

From İsmail Demir's statements

"Kale ve Rolls-Royce ortaklığının teklifini bekledik. Biraz süre uzatmak gerekti. Onların teklifinin daha somutlaştırılmasıyla ilgili süre vermemiz gerekti, onu bekliyoruz. O geldiğinde daha net bir değerlendirme yapabileceğiz."

"We waited for the offer of Kale and Rolls-Royce partnership. It took some time to extend. We had to give some more time to make their proposal more concrete, we are waiting for it. When they hand it, we will be able to make a clearer assessment."


Seems like they are going to choose Kale+RR if they don't offer a sh*tty engine or conditions.
Otherwise they would have just selected TRMotor/TEI without waiting

This is ridiculous

Why on earth would they still want to choose Kale/RR instead of TEI/TRMotor even though the latter will perform the first ignition of the TF-6000 by Jan 2023 and the TFX engine will be easily based on it! This means that TEI has a high possibility of giving Turkey a domestic engine for the TFX by 2028 when the mass production begins

Idk wtf is going on tbh

 

[Radonsider]

This is ridiculous

Why on earth would they still want to choose Kale/RR instead of TEI/TRMotor even though the latter will perform the first ignition of the TF-6000 by Jan 2023 and the TFX engine will be easily based on it! This means that TEI has a high possibility of giving Turkey a domestic engine for the TFX by 2028 when the mass production begins

Idk wtf is going on tbh

Probably to get better relations with UK and get a secure plan of TEI fails, I think that even if they choose RR+Kale, TEI+TRMotor will work to develop an engine for both exports and tech

 

[Baryshx]

Probably to get better relations with UK and get a secure plan of TEI fails, I think that even if they choose RR+Kale, TEI+TRMotor will work to develop an engine for both exports and tech

RR can do more experienced and more quickly. It is also a good reference for countries that will buy the plane.

 

[Radonsider]

RR can do more experienced and more quickly. It is also a good reference for countries that will buy the plane.

Depending on lots of factors, engine might not be good as TEI product.

But yes it will be done faster probably

 

[Manomed]

This is ridiculous

Why on earth would they still want to choose Kale/RR instead of TEI/TRMotor even though the latter will perform the first ignition of the TF-6000 by Jan 2023 and the TFX engine will be easily based on it! This means that TEI has a high possibility of giving Turkey a domestic engine for the TFX by 2028 when the mass production begins

Idk wtf is going on tbh

Because kale and RR can actually make a engine? It will take years for TEI to make a 4th gen engine also TF6000 isn't powerful enough to power MMU.

You need to know how to make these kind of stuff you can't just make a fully fledged engine in 4 years.