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It seems a plethora of new military technologies were showcased at the SAHA-2026 exhibition.
Perhaps even too many.

So there were critics who couldn't accept all these innovations.
It seems their main argument boils down to one thing: "This can't be true because Turkey isn't capable of producing such technology."

But in reality, for example, the intercontinental missile showcased there can only be considered new in Turkey, since some countries have been producing them for almost 70 years. Germany developed an intercontinental missile (two-stage!) back in 1944 to attack America.
82 years ago!

Remember how some foreign critics started screaming about the Bayraktar TB2 about 10 years ago? They demanded that Turkey stop producing these "soulless killers." Incidentally, unfortunately, there were politicians in Turkey itself who demanded the same thing. 🙄
Hmm.

Surely they haven't forgotten that it was the "son-in-law's" ;) drone that became the first in the world to shoot down an aerial target with an air-to-air missile.
Let's remember the Sultan Mehmet cannons: history doesn't care who built them—the Türkiye president's son-in-law or Hungarian President Urban himself🫢

I don't understand why some of our forum participants saw something incredible at this exhibition.

I didn't see anything supernatural among all these new products.
Abi honestly there’s nothing supernatural here. In fact, we defence enthusiasts were enthusiastic about such levels. In time eventually. But we’re also realistic and someway want to see shred of proof. Something tangible. Some data to speculate rather than some pathetic info card filled with absurd figures and hulk of an engine.
 

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I didn't see anything supernatural among all these new products.
Really?

You think a 42k lbs engine, from a group of people that have done fuck all when it comes to engines is normal? An engine that has more power than the one TEI, company of our foremost engine experts, have been working on. They built 6 of them, but brought a mock up with its fans welded onto its frame to Saha Expo for their big reveal, instead of bringing a working model to shove it in everyone's face.

And you take that at its face value without any further proof?
 

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MSB ARGE's Turboshaft engine for helicopters

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Lycoming T53-L-13 turboshaft, Used in UH-1s

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Is this a loophole that MSB is using to get around licence infringements and copy/paste or reverse engineer US engines?
 

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MSB ARGE's Turboshaft engine for helicopters

HHs8i5hXwAId09d


Lycoming T53-L-13 turboshaft, Used in UH-1s

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Is this a loophole that MSB is using to get around licence infringements and copy/paste or reverse engineer US engines?
Or, they are stealing photos and using them without a shame, hoping people won't recognise them.
 

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Really?

You think a 42k lbs engine, from a group of people that have done fuck all when it comes to engines is normal? An engine that has more power than the one TEI, company of our foremost engine experts, have been working on. They built 6 of them, but brought a mock up with its fans welded onto its frame to Saha Expo for their big reveal, instead of bringing a working model to shove it in everyone's face.

And you take that at its face value without any further proof?
I don't know anything about these people or this company.
I simply don't have enough information about this engine and rocket to confirm or deny anything. But I'm genuinely interested.
If you have unbiased sources, please cite them; I'd be grateful.
 

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I don't know anything about these people or this company.
I simply don't have enough information about this engine and rocket to confirm or deny anything. But I'm genuinely interested.
If you have unbiased sources, please cite them; I'd be grateful.
Just read multiple comments on here, or apply basic logic and reasoning ffs.
 

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Just out of interest the 6k missile that was shown. Lets presume that one is fake, how many years are we away from being able to do it considering where we know we are now? 5, 10?
 

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Just out of interest the 6k missile that was shown. Lets presume that one is fake, how many years are we away from being able to do it considering where we know we are now? 5, 10?
Actually I think out of all the stuff that they have shown that’s the most realistic if they are using subcomponents from the private industry remember the unnamed missile from roketsan so less than 5 years
 

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Just out of interest the 6k missile that was shown. Lets presume that one is fake, how many years are we away from being able to do it considering where we know we are now? 5, 10?
2 years max if you really want it, I can tell from the Şimşek-1 space launch rocket program where the rocket is a 29 meter long 2.2 meter diameter beast and is expected for 2027.

Yıldırımhan estimated specifications (by comparison to its equivalents in the world)

Length: 15 meter
Diameter: 1.57 meter
Mass: 30.000 kg
 
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Turkish MoD R&D statement regarding the whole shock and debate from YILDIRIMHAN and GÜÇHAN

"TurDef learned that both programmes had been developed under extraordinary secrecy. A source speaking to TurDef compared the Ministry’s role to a “pace setter” in athletics competitions. According to the source, the Ministry does not seek to compete with defence companies inside the sector, but rather to accelerate development across the sector, provide technological know-how and help push the broader ecosystem forward."
 
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Turkish MoD R&D statement regarding the whole shock and debate from YILDIRIMHAN and GÜÇHAN

"TurDef learned that both programmes had been developed under extraordinary secrecy. A source speaking to TurDef compared the Ministry’s role to a “pace setter” in athletics competitions. According to the source, the Ministry does not seek to compete with defence companies inside the sector, but rather to accelerate development across the sector, provide technological know-how and help push the broader ecosystem forward."
Do you @Kaan Azman believe this statement?
 

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Turkish MoD R&D statement regarding the whole shock and debate from YILDIRIMHAN and GÜÇHAN

"TurDef learned that both programmes had been developed under extraordinary secrecy. A source speaking to TurDef compared the Ministry’s role to a “pace setter” in athletics competitions. According to the source, the Ministry does not seek to compete with defence companies inside the sector, but rather to accelerate development across the sector, provide technological know-how and help push the broader ecosystem forward."
"Tavşan atlet"
The pace setter
 

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Maybe I did not state it (Because there has been no need to so far) but I don't take someone trying to get something severe out of my mouth on uncertain topics lightly.

Or if I was to put it in an undiplomatic and a blunt language: Don't be approaching me like that, it pisses me off.

If you did not say the last thing, I would take it as you were casually asking about an opinion.

Like I said, I prefer observation over hanging n slashing around in situations like this, till I have a clearer picture on what is what.
 
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Yeah,no need to get pissed off i understand you have much to lose and i dont want to be the cause of that.
Dont worry,wont ask your personal opinion anymore.
 
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