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There is two version of EHPOD one is for support the other one is for attack.
 

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There is two version of EHPOD one is for support the other one is for attack.
I wonder how effective the EHPOD electronic warfare system is against AESA type radars. Considering the time period it was developed, I doubt its effectiveness against Aesa type radars.

Perhaps we will wait for the Air Soj system for electronic jamming to Aesa type radars.
 

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I wonder how effective the EHPOD electronic warfare system is against AESA type radars. Considering the time period it was developed, I doubt its effectiveness against Aesa type radars.

Perhaps we will wait for the Air Soj system for electronic jamming to Aesa type radars.


EHPOD for F16 is self defence not jamming air defences. It is designed to break lock and make it hard to lock.
 

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The MURAD AESA will be handed over to Baykar for Akinci integration activities in a few days.


I think the Murad radar system will be the first on-board radar system of our country.

But so far, I have not been able to find any information that Murad radar has been tested by Aselsan while flying on an airplane.

I wonder if Murad radar will be tested for the first time by being flown over Akıncı Tiha. If this is the case, the Akıncı Tiha integration process may take some time.
 

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EHPOD for F16 is self defence not jamming air defences. It is designed to break lock and make it hard to lock.
Well, will the F 16 Ehpod not emit signals to prevent the enemy radar from locking onto the plane or to break the radar lock? Won't it first scan for signals and analyze the signals in the air? Will make.

Here is the difficulty of the aesa radar. Many different RF signals from Aesa radar, at very different high frequencies and in different directions, need to be processed and countered. I don't think it can be effective against aesa radar with equipment that can fit in such a small pod. After all, there is the technological level part of the job.
 

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Well, will the F 16 Ehpod not emit signals to prevent the enemy radar from locking onto the plane or to break the radar lock? Won't it first scan for signals and analyze the signals in the air? Will make.

Here is the difficulty of the aesa radar. Many different RF signals from Aesa radar, at very different high frequencies and in different directions, need to be processed and countered. I don't think it can be effective against aesa radar with equipment that can fit in such a small pod. After all, there is the technological level part of the job.


I will be able to protect against AESA radar, you should go read some information before you make false claims.
 

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I will be able to protect against AESA radar, you should go read some information before you make false claims.
I would also like the Ehpod system to be effective against Aesa radars.

But nowhere is there a positive source on this subject.

If you find a resource, share it.

Also, I didn't make a definitive statement. I gave my guess.


In addition, it is stated in this article that the antenna structure of the Ehpod is not Aesa, but a funnel type. This is an indication that the system needs to be updated. Also, an aesa build was more effective against an aesa build.

Research about Aselsan Redet and Koral Kara Soj sytem.
 
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I would also like the Ehpod system to be effective against Aesa radars.

But nowhere is there a positive source on this subject.

If you find a resource, share it.

Also, I didn't make a definitive statement. I gave my guess.


In addition, it is stated in this article that the antenna structure of the Ehpod is not Aesa, but a funnel type. This is an indication that the system needs to be updated. Also, an aesa build was more effective against an aesa build.

Research about Aselsan Redet and Koral Kara Soj sytem.


Thats not correct go read againg, ther is noting about ineffective against AESA radar, it is a self defence and do not need AESA antenne but horn antenne. HORN antenne have better coverage. It is a self defence againg i repeat it do not need a AESA antenne.

Edindiğimiz bilgiye göre F-16C tipi uçaklar için entegre edilip sertifikasyonu yapılacak EHPOD Sisteminde Aktif Elektronik Taramalı Faz Dizin (AESA) anten teknolojisi yerine geniş hüzmeli, çoklu ‘horn (huni)’ anten grubu kullanılmıştır. Bu yapının tasarlanmasının ana sebebi ise yüksek manevra kabiliyetine sahip F-16 Uçağının her türlü manevrasında oluşacak yönlenme hatalarını, karıştırmanın etkinliği için en iyi tolere edebilecek geniş hüzme kabiliyetinin bu anten formu ile kazanılmış olmasından kaynaklanmaktadır. Sonuçta EH Pod bir refakatte karıştırma (Escort Jamming) podu değil, kendini koruma amaçlı bir EH Podu olduğundan birincil amaç taşıyıcı F-16 Uçağının öz savunması olduğundan çoklu ‘horn’ anten grubu tasarımı en optimum ve maliyet etkin çözüm olarak tercih edilmiştir.


You can see why they chosen horn antenne. Stop with your nonsense post.

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Thats not correct go read againg, ther is noting about ineffective against AESA radar, it is a self defence and do not need AESA antenne but horn antenne. HORN antenne have better coverage. It is a self defence againg i repeat it do not need a AESA antenne.

Edindiğimiz bilgiye göre F-16C tipi uçaklar için entegre edilip sertifikasyonu yapılacak EHPOD Sisteminde Aktif Elektronik Taramalı Faz Dizin (AESA) anten teknolojisi yerine geniş hüzmeli, çoklu ‘horn (huni)’ anten grubu kullanılmıştır. Bu yapının tasarlanmasının ana sebebi ise yüksek manevra kabiliyetine sahip F-16 Uçağının her türlü manevrasında oluşacak yönlenme hatalarını, karıştırmanın etkinliği için en iyi tolere edebilecek geniş hüzme kabiliyetinin bu anten formu ile kazanılmış olmasından kaynaklanmaktadır. Sonuçta EH Pod bir refakatte karıştırma (Escort Jamming) podu değil, kendini koruma amaçlı bir EH Podu olduğundan birincil amaç taşıyıcı F-16 Uçağının öz savunması olduğundan çoklu ‘horn’ anten grubu tasarımı en optimum ve maliyet etkin çözüm olarak tercih edilmiştir.


You can see why they chosen horn antenne. Stop with your nonsense post.

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I will not discuss this further. However, as I see the features of the last generation systems, I state that the capability of Ehpod is limited and I am not satisfied with it. I would expect a more advanced level from such a pod than an onboard electronic countermeasure system. As you know, there is a no-fly airspace to our south, and one of the elements of unlocking this lock is such systems. I don't like that we stay away while Israeli planes pierce Syrian airspace.

Or, I don't want them to have a problem when our f16s meet with aesa radar greek rafale and f16 block 70s in the aegean sea.
 
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I will not discuss this further. However, as I see the features of the last generation systems, I state that the capability of Ehpod is limited and I am not satisfied with it. I would expect a more advanced level from such a pod than an onboard electronic countermeasure system. As you know, there is a no-fly airspace to our south, and one of the elements of unlocking this lock is such systems. I don't like that we stay away while Israeli planes pierce Syrian airspace.
Kızılelma is for that. Don't worry about it.
 

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I will not discuss this further. However, as I see the features of the last generation systems, I state that the capability of Ehpod is limited and I am not satisfied with it. I would expect a more advanced level from such a pod than an onboard electronic countermeasure system. As you know, there is a no-fly airspace to our south, and one of the elements of unlocking this lock is such systems. I don't like that we stay away while Israeli planes pierce Syrian airspace.
Israeli can get into Syrian airspace because they got permission form Russia
 

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Israeli can get into Syrian airspace because they got permission form Russia
For a long time, Israel has not received support from the Russians on this issue. At least for Sam systems. How many times were Sam missiles fired at their planes?

In addition, we also have problems with egede, aesa radar rafale and f16 block 70.
 

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At high G maneuvers, AESA fails to jam the enemy RF source. This is not a problem for escort EW pods but it is a big problem for self-defense EW pods. Turkish Airforce will use Hava-SOJ for stand-off jamming, IHA-SOJ for escort jamming, and EHPOD for self-defense jamming.
I will not discuss this further. However, as I see the features of the last generation systems, I state that the capability of Ehpod is limited and I am not satisfied with it. I would expect a more advanced level from such a pod than an onboard electronic countermeasure system. As you know, there is a no-fly airspace to our south, and one of the elements of unlocking this lock is such systems. I don't like that we stay away while Israeli planes pierce Syrian airspace.

Or, I don't want them to have a problem when our f16s meet with aesa radar greek rafale and f16 block 70s in the aegean sea.
 

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At high G maneuvers, AESA fails to jam the enemy RF source. This is not a problem for escort EW pods but it is a big problem for self-defense EW pods. Turkish Airforce will use Hava-SOJ for stand-off jamming, IHA-SOJ for escort jamming, and EHPOD for self-defense jamming.
Why would it ? AESA beam steering is pretty fast and accurate. Not to mention that you can focus in a tighter beam but also AESA is better for frequency hopping. AESA is better for LPI, better accuracy, better jamming. With a stationary horn antenna, you are going to get a larger lobe. You will be a easier target for HOJ missiles.
 

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