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TrMotor APU for TFX

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AFAIK UV sensors sometimes struggle detecting some wavelenghts. That wavelenghts depends on the missiles rocket motors mixture. It's better to stop using UV sensors and turn to IR ones.
 

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About IVDL Aselsan is developing for frequency hopping, jamming resistant in-fleet data transfer and communication link (F35 has MADL system as equivalent)

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Very interesting. I've been searching for information regarding MMU's communication capabilities and this is a great insight. So MMU will probably operate with Link-16(communicating with other THK airborne assets) and IVDL(with other MMUs). Any information about it's details?
 

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Very interesting. I've been searching for information regarding MMU's communication capabilities and this is a great insight. So MMU will probably operate with Link-16(communicating with other THK airborne assets) and IVDL(with other MMUs). Any information about it's details?
it is probably going to use IVDL for MIUS and TİSU too
 

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Very interesting. I've been searching for information regarding MMU's communication capabilities and this is a great insight. So MMU will probably operate with Link-16(communicating with other THK airborne assets) and IVDL(with other MMUs). Any information about it's details?


Turkiye is getting ready to replace foreign origin tactical data links with completely national link systems. Link-M and Mil-Link systems developed by Milsoft will provide simultaneous secure communication and data transfer capability with land-sea-air and space units at long distances through IP-based communication and HF, V/UHF antennas.

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The first message sent in trials with the national tactical data link is "Hello Historical Moment!"

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Turkiye is getting ready to replace foreign origin tactical data links with completely national link systems. Link-M and Mil-Link systems developed by Milsoft will provide simultaneous secure communication and data transfer capability with land-sea-air and space units at long distances through IP-based communication and HF, V/UHF antennas.

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The first message sent in trials with the national tactical data link is "Hello Historical Moment!"

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From 2019 if I remember correctly 🧿
 

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Turkiye is getting ready to replace foreign origin tactical data links with completely national link systems. Link-M and Mil-Link systems developed by Milsoft will provide simultaneous secure communication and data transfer capability with land-sea-air and space units at long distances through IP-based communication and HF, V/UHF antennas.

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The first message sent in trials with the national tactical data link is "Hello Historical Moment!"

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It says link-22 there, so I guess Mil-Link is a terminal?
 

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It says link-22 there, so I guess Mil-Link is a terminal?


Mil-Link/Net and Link-M is national tactical link system
Mil-DLP multi-link processing among different links
Mil-JRE is tactical data link extension terminal
E-DLP is the link between aircraft and guided missiles (Kement)
 

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What is good or bad is only known by senior engineers who are developing those systems to protect homeland, not individuals or defence enthusiasts. Contrary to your consideration for some tech field, Aselsan is not new in this field. They have previously developed many detectors and video processing, autonatic target tracking algorithms and software and revealed matured products. They have a lot of experience in the field of panoramic IRST as well used by Navy. Only the product we call as "Yildirim" as DIRCM is being developed for the first time If we don't take "Nazar" DIRCM developed for Navy By Meteksan. The capabilities of the system we call BEOS will also have HD resolution in the L/MWIR band (QWIP) + SWIR detectors.

When all these along with 360 degree radar surveillance&tracking come together, TFX offers many many advanced features on paper for situational awareness, along with features that will not be available in the F35. Maybe it's hard to predict which will be better due to undisclosed and currently not-available products but considering all these systems, it would be equally illogical to argue that TFX will be missing from F35. That's why I have listed the passive/active capabilities to correct some false consideration.
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No offense, but it just simple physics! side looking aesa with with only frontal one is not enough for 360 situational awareness if you don't have a rear looking aesa! ( Is it confirmed on TFX? ) Secondly, even though aselsan started to domestically produce phocal array for IR sensor for last couple of years but they still did not quite nationalized the HD MWIR and SWIR detectors on EO sensors yet!
( Propably they will get their soon )

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...QQFnoECAgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0d2aPeh1HXKxjbX_iqCszI

Last but not the least, it is not illogical to argue that ' a trillion dollars program that has been maturing for 2 decades and was undertaken by the world largest defence contractor who is also happens to be the developer of the world first fifth gen and most advanced stealth fighter (f22 ) and world first stealth aircraft (f117) that program 'PROPABLY' will be better than a program ( TFX ) that has been undertaken by relatively new player in the field ( who did not even developed their own fourth gen fighter in the past ) and that program still has lot to prove! Of course, I am not hoping that, TFX should be inferior to f35 ( we all hope turks should get a true fifth gen fighter ) however, I don't think it is illogical to argue that.

Note: I said 'propably'.
 

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