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If the government decide to buy 5th generation jet and turkey not willing to sell to malaysia then we will buy from south korea.
In fact during LIMA,korean defense minister is offering their latest jet kf 21 or future 5th generation jet to malaysia.
Luckily,Turkiye is not run by people like you .
Ukrainian engine developer Ivchenko Progress has entered the "Preliminary Design Phase Project" tender for the development of the turbofan engine of KAAN.
-Ivchenko Progress established a cooperation model with TEI within the scope of the tender.
Via SST
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I am in favor of both groups developing a prototype.TEI&TRMotor(TAI-owned companies) +Ivchenko Progress vs Kale&RR.
I am in favor of both groups developing a prototype.
It would be really interesting to see what Ivchenko Progress is proposing.Ukrainian engine developer Ivchenko Progress has entered the "Preliminary Design Phase Project" tender for the development of the turbofan engine of KAAN.
-Ivchenko Progress established a cooperation model with TEI within the scope of the tender.
Via SST
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Ukrayna KAAN savaş uçağının motor ihalesine girdİ
KAAN savaş uçağının özgün motorunun geliştirilmesi için açılan ihaleye, Ukraynalı Ivchenko Progress şirketi de katılım sağladı.www.savunmasanayist.com
Ivchenko Progress was asked by TRMotor, to design an APU for KAAN-TFX. It is most likely that their input is limited with that contribution.The best possible scenario is; SSB encouraged TEI/TrMotor to start working on preliminary design stage and As a result, they have been working since 2/3 years and the number of engineers in program exceeded to 300. Later, SSB likely announce the winner as TrMotor/TEI/IP partnership, and later Kale also join the big club as development partner for Tf35K.
Ivchenko Progress was asked by TRMotor, to design an APU for KAAN-TFX. It is most likely that their input is limited with that contribution.
I honestly can’t see a company that has no working engines that they may have designed since Soviet era, to be able to contribute anything to a design that is 35-40 years ahead of anything that they already have.
If SSB were to award the TF35K engine to Kale-RR consortium with TEI being a party to produce parts, then we may have just about a chance to see a locally produced engine powering and flying KAAN by 2028.
Otherwise if we are to faff around with TRMotor/Ivchenko Progress etc, it won’t be before early 2030s when we have an indigenous engine powering our KAAN-TFX.
In RR, we are talking about a company that can turn around a working demonstrator prototype engine for FCAS, from nothing within 18 months.
Having been a party to the development of F136 engine with GE and have the right tools such as additive production techniques for Blisk manufacturing and single crystal turbine blades, they are the right address to achieve what we want in this late hour of the day!
Rolls-Royce unveils new engine demonstrator for FCAS
Rolls-Royce's defence business has designed, built, and run an innovative small engine concept in under 18 months – a transformational project that will change how products and technologies are developed for the UK’s Future Combat Air Strategy (FCAS).www.aero-mag.com
it doesn't matter it's only a formality tr motor and tei has already begun with the development of the engine 2 years ago.At this point I am considering to establish my own company Afif-Motor, and submitt my offer to SSB before tender ends.
Jokes aside, this tender is taking too long. It is already 2023 and KAAN gonna make its maiden flight soon, yet the Engine development is not officially awarded.
Gathering engineers is good but gathering companies is wrong. TEI will subcontract parts development when necessary and they actually do, like when they cooperate with Ivchenko or Motor Sich of the Ukraine or when TAI subcontract parts development of Hürjet to a Brazilian company. But project ownership should stay in solely the possession of TEI.TF35K is in a way our Manhattan project guess so we need to gether all enginers and infrastructure available in a single pool
I think Things aren't going as expected with UK. The contribution of BAE in TFX Phase-1 was very mediocre with mostly inexperienced engineers and Tusaş complained about this situation a few times. As for engine to be likely developed with RR, RR put strong cards on table both in terms of license rights and production since they feel that Turkiye don't have an alternative way out of their offer. Also, Some reluctant statements by Turkish officials regarding possible deal with BAE for TFX Phase-2 were reflected in the press. Turkiye's cooperation offers for Tempest were also rejected by UK. The withdrawal of British royal air force which was said to join the last AnatolianEagle exercise also created question marks. Apart from this, there is a serious political confrontation and embargo from the West in almost every field, be them enlargement of NATO, terror operations or Russia/Ukraine war. Considering these conditions, TEI/TrMotor must have been given an unofficial development task for Tf35K engine as a precautionary measure. If everything was fine with the RR, no one would work with 300 engineers on the design of the engine on an engineer/day basis. RR's capability is indisputable but we all know what we are going to face when it comes to matters related with Turkiye bro.