TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[hugh]

This is the source of the leak

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1879137810776756319

Maybe it's an old video. It's best to wait for an official release but the defense publications are posting it as the second prototype and I haven't seen any retraction. They must know the progress better than us speculators

 

[Sanchez]

This is the source of the leak

It's not a leak, it was shared by SSB during their open media day.

 

[Hannibal]

Nose area look like it got flatter, anyone confirm? They are also saying 6 more are going to be built?

 

[hugh]

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Nose area look like it got flatter, anyone confirm? They are also saying 6 more are going to be built?

It still has vileda stick. They better tore the aircraft down rebuild it.

 

[Strong AI]

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Nose area look like it got flatter, anyone confirm? They are also saying 6 more are going to be built?

Another difference?

 

[Sanchez]

Another difference?

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That's probably due to lighting, camera and the angle.

 

[Strong AI]

That's probably due to lighting, camera and the angle.

Yeah looks like this is P0, watched this video again.

Technology and art came together on the canvas of visually impaired painter Eşref Armağan.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1863819615937184211

 

[KAAN]

TF-36000

According to the latest statement by SSB President Haluk Görgün, the indigenous engine will produce 36.000lbf thrust.

It was probably around 38.000lbf with the normal nozzle, it may have been decided as 36.000lbf since TVC was included, it was clear from the officials' recent articles and statements that TVC would be included.

 

[cr33pt3d]

I can see it already has landing gear, means it will probably fly this summer .at this rate maybe TAI will have all 6 proto ready by late 2026.
I'm really curious to the placement of the vertical stabilizers, are they still on top of the engine or did they move it to the right side

 

[Sanchez]

Better source. I'm 70% sure this is P0. Man second from right looks Arab, possibly during the Saudi visit. They've had no other big visits since then.

 

[KAAN]

And the new prototype will likely include IRST and EOTS faceted glass enclosures.

It hasn't been long since images from the assembly line have been shared, and it is unlikely that the aircraft will be painted. And I don't think a prototype that allegedly includes major changes, no matter who or what it's for, will show itself to another state's official so early.

Also, the president's signature will only be on the GTU-0, and it will probably be displayed in the museum as well. He signed it during the naming ceremony on 1.5.2023. A classic election period...

Also on the landing gear?

There are no landing gear covers in the photo.

Most likely an old image.

 

[KAAN]

For the first time since June 17, 2019, the technical specifications were updated by TAI itself.

Wingspan from 14 meters to 13.4 meters

Lenght from 21 meters to 20.3 meters

Height from 6 meters to 5 meters

Wing area from 70m2 to 71.6m2

Still; 1.8 mach maximum speed, 55.000ft maximum ceiling and 60.000lb MTOW.

https://www.tusas.com/content/files/uploads/236/TechnicSpec_TR_KAAN.pdf

Edit: The calculations used F110 engines, which is reasonable considering the speed and maximum altitude, but it is strange that supercruise capability is also listed as such.

 

[fushkee]

1 meter in height is huge actually.

 

[KAAN]

The height was never 6 meters; it was previously estimated/calculated that GTU-0 was 5.1 meters. Now, we have a late confirmation of this. Additionally, the length was calculated to be 20.2 meters, and the wingspan was 13.3 meters. Interestingly, the weight data remains constant. Considering this length is very close to the calculated dimensions for GTU-0, and we were expecting a shortening, it provides further evidence that the photo above is not recent. If it indeed represents GTU-0, the weight data—announced as approximately 25 tons—would make sense.

There might be an update with P1, or perhaps this data was deliberately shared during this period to mislead. However, it seems the actual aircraft will be only slightly longer than the F-22.

The wing area dimensions result in very low wing loading for an aircraft weighing only 60,000 lbs. Coupled with a total thrust of 72,000 lbf with thrust vectoring, the potential for impressive maneuverability is evident.

 

[Huelague]

Claimed to be Kaan P1, second prototype. But I have my doubts, might just be P0 as well.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1879137541271568739

Tolga Özbek is a serious person.

 

[RMZN]

Tolga Özbek is a serious person.

Yeah, but he is basing his comment on Haluk Görgüns statement.

 

[hugh]

Better source. I'm 70% sure this is P0. Man second from right looks Arab, possibly during the Saudi visit. They've had no other big visits since then.

it is the first prototype(P0)

 

[hugh]

how to make sense of this hot mess? all of the defence publications jumped on it and shared it as the new prototype(including DefenceTurk). none of them questions the absurdity and serve it as it is from the horse's mouth. some(Tolga Özbek) are even scolding his followers, saying "do you think Haluk Görgün is lying"?

 

[Khagan1923]

how to make sense of this hot mess? all of the defence publications jumped on it and shared it as the new prototype(including DefenceTurk). none of them questions the absurdity and serve it as it is from the horse's mouth. some(Tolga Özbek) are even scolding his followers, saying "do you think Haluk Görgün is lying"?

1. He misspoke

2. They used the wrong picture

There is no reason to lie. We all know the second aircraft, P1, is on the assembly line. Someone fucked up, the question is who and where.

 

[hugh]

1. He misspoke

2. They used the wrong picture

There is no reason to lie. We all know the second aircraft, P1, is on the assembly line. Someone fucked up, the question is who and where.

yeah ofc he's not lying. there's a mixup somewhere in the chain.

what baffled me was the lack of fact checking of the defence publications. like how can you believe that this is the second prototype? why doesn't anyone raise any questions? aren't you supposed to know a little bit better than the usual, clueless spectators?

what a gullible bunch. it speaks volumes for the state of journalism in this country.