TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[TheInsider]

Is this confirmed or just speculation?
If KAAN has 360° AESA radar then it would inevitably have to have SU-57 MARS (DARS).
We know that it has AESA Radar + DAS, but MARS was more a wish of all of us than the actual reality.
To this day there is no official confirmation.

Confirmed %100. Kaan will have 1 nose and 2 cheek AESA radars for approx 270 degree coverage. AESA radars can be utilized as jammers. Kaan will have a jammer antenna between engines that will provide additional coverage, so 360 degree jammming coverage will be achieved.

 

[TheInsider]

So,why only 270-degree radar coverage?
Why not 360?

Your guess is as good as mine.

 

[Turkic]

Confirmed %100. Kaan will have 1 nose and 2 cheek AESA radars for approx 270 degree coverage. AESA radars can be utilized as jammers. Kaan will have a jammer antenna between engines that will provide additional coverage, so 360 degree jammming coverage will be achieved.

What happened to the rear radar that was supposed to be between the engines? Was it just speculation or they decided to replace it with a jammer?

 

[TheInsider]

What happened to the rear radar that was supposed to be between the engines? Was it just speculation or they decided to replace it with a jammer?

It is said that there will be a jamming antenna at that spot. Maybe It is too small for an AESA array and they decided to put a jamming antenna instead.

 

[Strong AI]

TAI CEO:

We will hear news in the coming days about KAAN (signing)
(Previous part about Hürjet is in the Hürjet thread)

At like 8:38 min

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1948278158190362665

 

[CAN_TR]

So,why only 270-degree radar coverage?
Why not 360?

Maybe limits of power generation for the AESA radars or maybe because it's not useful to have a AESA radar sticking out of KAAN's butt

 

[IC3M@N FX]

Confirmed %100. Kaan will have 1 nose and 2 cheek AESA radars for approx 270 degree coverage. AESA radars can be utilized as jammers. Kaan will have a jammer antenna between engines that will provide additional coverage, so 360 degree jammming coverage will be achieved.

Where from? Is there a reliable source that officially confirms this? I'm not talking about an X (Twitter) account belonging to military expert Person A, B, or C, but official statements from Aselsan/TAI.
It would surprise me if they had disclosed almost all of the TAI KAAN's features publicly, even the color of the TAI CEO's underwear (Sarcastic) except for the 360° AESA Radar.

 

[Strong AI]

I mean, you don't turn your back when you want to target someone. So 360 degree coverage for jamming and RWR detection is more important.

Confirmed %100. Kaan will have 1 nose and 2 cheek AESA radars for approx 270 degree coverage. AESA radars can be utilized as jammers. Kaan will have a jammer antenna between engines that will provide additional coverage, so 360 degree jammming coverage will be achieved.

Does that mean KAAN's radar will be able to support a launched missile at for example 90 degrees offset to the target too?

 

[Strong AI]

Where from? Is there a reliable source that officially confirms this? I'm not talking about an X (Twitter) account belonging to military expert Person A, B, or C, but official statements from Aselsan/TAI.
It would surprise me if they had disclosed almost all of the TAI KAAN's features publicly, even the color of the TAI CEO's underwear (Sarcastic) except for the 360° AESA Radar.

A source would be great of course.
But let's assume you are the enemy, what you gonna do now with that information, try to sneak behind (lol)?
These kind of informations are more like those poisonous animals with very bright colors and for export customers (IMO).

 

[TheInsider]

Reportedly, there are jammer antennas distributed around Kaan seperate from the nose and cheek radars that can also act like a jammer and aft spot between the engines can host one jammer antenna but can't host a radar array. Of course, all RF assets, be it radar arrays, seperate jammers, passive receivers and iff will be integrated under BURFIS.

 

[TheInsider]

I mean, you don't turn your back when you want to target someone. So 360 degree coverage for jamming and RWR detection is more important.



Does that mean KAAN's radar will be able to support a launched missile at for example 90 degrees offset to the target too?

This is not a problem in modern A-A warfare; it was solved long ago.

 

[TheInsider]

Where from? Is there a reliable source that officially confirms this? I'm not talking about an X (Twitter) account belonging to military expert Person A, B, or C, but official statements from Aselsan/TAI.
It would surprise me if they had disclosed almost all of the TAI KAAN's features publicly, even the color of the TAI CEO's underwear (Sarcastic) except for the 360° AESA Radar.

My source directly asked TUSAS official at IDEF but of course it is possible that he might be a marketing person that doesn't have deep knowledge about the project having said that i doubt that and i consider this true unless i see a more reliable source

 

[Strong AI]

This is not a problem in modern A-A warfare; it was solved long ago.

Are you talking about support of the missile through Datalink?
Because there is no nose radar with that great area of coverage.
How can the launching platform support the missile when the target is no more in the coverage area? Those missiles like Aim-120 need to be supported until a specific range to the target is reached, before they go active with their own seeker.

 

[Strong AI]

Aselsan BURFIS (Integrated RF system for TFX - 360 degree EW sensors + 360 degree AESA radars)

 

[Sanchez]

Some claim the tail boom will house both EW and part of radar suite, some say only a part of the EW suite. But by how BÜRFİS is structured, EW and radar are basically the same thing.

We'll learn more about it in the coming years anyhow.

 

[TheInsider]

Yes, i know this. I talked about that in the past. When I mentioned Burfis in the past, I wrote the exact same thing (360 degree radar coverage), but now I have this info that is different than the past info.

Data-link, sensor fusion, IRST, wide-angle AESA radars like Raven, passive sensors, cheek arrays. There are multiple solutions. Of course, having cheek arrays as a brute force solution is good, but cheek arrays don't have the same capability as the nose array. Nose array is bigger, have more power output, and range.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

My source directly asked TUSAS official at IDEF but of course it is possible that he might be a marketing person that doesn't have deep knowledge about the project having said that i doubt that and i consider this true unless i see a more reliable source

That's what I mean, I don't want to attack you or declare your source unprofessional, but you know yourself what fanboy talk is. And let's be honest, no matter what technological leaps we've made in the last 10 years, we have to view many things with skepticism and not take every piece of nonsense at face value or treat it as such.
If it were up to fanboys, they'd already be building spaceships with warp drive technology.

 

[TheInsider]

KAAN IVDL, this is not a mock-up.

 

[Strong AI]

KAAN IVDL, this is not a mock-up.

Could it be that Aselsan and some other companies working for KAAN are ahead of schedule?

 

[Strong AI]

We have signed an important agreement with Indonesia regarding the KAAN project.

The agreement with PT Republik Aero Dirgantara and PT Dirgantara Indonesia covers the procurement of 48 KAAN aircraft, as well as production, engineering, and technology sharing.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1948371343868653827