TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

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Ladies & gentlemen 🇹🇷
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America is losing in Africa, losing in Asia. Losing economically, why are we giving massive concessions to this dying empire?

It would’ve been so much more practical to work with Europe and use Russia as a common enemy to align defence industries.
Israel has pretty much no say in Europe.

Erdogan’s foreign policy for USA is completely misguided. USA is completely controlled by Jewish billionaires and AIPAC, they will not give up their colony state.

Greece and Israel will have complete air superiority until we can get a squadron of Kaan’s with indigenous engines.
Soon Israel will get F-47 sixth gen fighter and we will be on the back foot again.
 

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The engine embargo was to be expected. The chances of us getting them were always slim. Now that it's certain, it puts first operational units of KAAN to 7 years away, to 2032, at earliest. So it'll be a long, painful road.

In the mean time, our main focus should be getting TF6k/10k off the ground as soon as possible. We'll have to make do with KIZILELMA and ANKA 3, in addition to ÖZGÜR-2 upgrade. We'll need to be creative and find ways to counter the qualitative edge of Greek and Israeli air forces. We'll have no shortage of the advanced sensors in our toolbox. We'll just somehow have to invent a new CONOPS and find an edge against our well-supplied foes.

Having said that, why the fuck are we buying american gas and planes? why are we eating so much shit even when we're getting nothing in return?
 

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Don't waste any more energy on countries like that. Get the WS 10 C or D engine directly from Pakistan over China. It is almost nearly identical to the CFM56/F-101 Family -> F-110 engine in terms of size, weight, diameter and LBF, it also has FADEC. It's just a transitional engine anyway.
 
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The engine embargo was to be expected. The chances of us getting them were always slim. Now that it's certain, it puts first operational units of KAAN to 7 years away, to 2032, at earliest. So it'll be a long, painful road.

In the mean time, our main focus should be getting TF6k/10k off the ground as soon as possible. We'll have to make do with KIZILELMA and ANKA 3, in addition to ÖZGÜR-2 upgrade. We'll need to be creative and find ways to counter the qualitative edge of Greek and Israeli air forces. We'll have no shortage of the advanced sensors in our toolbox. We'll just somehow have to invent a new CONOPS and find an edge against our well-supplied foes.

Having said that, why the fuck are we buying american gas and planes? why are we eating so much shit even when we're getting nothing in return?
The Boeing planes were planned but what’s the point of buying gas if you get nothing in return
 

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About engine issue, remember, the reason why we are st were awe are in Defence industry, is because of embargoes.
 

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The Boeing planes were planned but what’s the point of buying gas if you get nothing in return
how can we order their planes, knowing they don't even bat an eye for crippling our defense industry. don't order them and incur some future revenue losses for THY. big deal! but if you're still buying their stuff, they know they can treat you like shit and will never suffer any consequences. we paid billions for F35 and got nothing. paid bilions for F16s and got nothing. years of nothing but humiliation but we're still desiring to sit on their laps. when did we get so submissive and lost all our pride?
 

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If they solve the F35 deal then the engine will be solved to, accordin to that Tom Barrack wait and see, but when wil we see? :D
 

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