The moment will come where they need our help and defend. Than we will remember this days.
We shouldnt help them.
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The moment will come where they need our help and defend. Than we will remember this days.
How merciful of you!couple thousand
I disagree with the second paragraph
Eurofighter CEO Mezzanatto stated that Turkey wanted to buy 40-50 Eurofighters, but Germany blocked these attempts.
Italian CEO emphasized that the blockage may have been made due to Turkey's natural gas activities in the Eastern Mediterranean.
You sure about that?We buy Reis class submarines from Germany and we have not had any problems.
There will always be wars. History has a habit of repeating itself. USA, Israel and the EU do NOT want to see Turkiye as a military and economic powerhouse because that means we can dictate our own foreign policy (remember when we denied the usa access to the second Gulf war? They still haven't forgotten). And even worse, competition on the international arms market.
They cannot afford the alienate us completely unless something radically changes, and that is not just because of Russia. The world has 2 spheres of influence right now, and if they kick us out of theirs completely, we would have no choice but to ally ourselves with the other. And that would cause Mediterranean to stop being a NATO lake, which would force them to commit extra resources, from all branches of their militaries, to a flank that wasn't there before, forcing them to go against Russia and China with weaker forces.All of that is done in the interest of keeping Türkeye within they reach or area of influence.
Mate, you sound like a broken record. repeating the same stuff over and over again. I don't see anyone in this forum who considers most of the western countries as genuine allies.
We have interests and if they allign then we walk together for a while. Now Spain is and could possibly be considered the most friendly western ally we have atm. The Brits are playing their game "good cop, bad cop" (US, or with the help of some EU allies). etc. etc. etc.
All of that is done in the interest of keeping Türkeye within they reach or area of influence.
That's it.
The Spanish Air and Space Army has decided to replace its F-5 aircraft with 24 Turkish-made Hurjet advanced trainers. In addition, the strategic transport fleet will be expanded with the acquisition of six new A400M aircraft. These changes are part of the modernization of the Spanish air force, improving both training and transport capabilities. After half a century of service, the aircraft will cease service in 2030.
Last Sunday, a prototype of the new models landed at the Torrejón de Ardoz base and a Spanish delegation will travel to Turkey in a few weeks to put an aircraft exchange agreement on the table. Spain replaces the F-5 and disposes of part of the unused A400M.
Spain is looking to dispose of ten aircraft of this type. Initially it ordered 27 A400M aircraft, but later assured that only 14 would be used. A year ago, the Minister of Defense, Margarita Robles, explained that in the end Spain would be left with 17, so it is looking to dispose of ten.
One A400M is around 120m € per piece. 10x around 1.2 bln €
24 Hürjet, how expensive can they be? I think there might be a bit of money involved too.
Spain currently does not have plans to build a second, larger carrier. They had made plans more than a decade ago for a second LHD but they went nowhere. There is currently some external push from pundits or two (both articles talk about Turkish programs as well for the interested) for a second LHD to double L61, but not a true carrier, so they wouldn't have a use for Hürjet-N. Per them, they simply don't have the budget for a new carrier, a new airwing(Harrier or F-35B?) and escorts. They didn't even finalize an F-35 order yet. If they did, they could make a valuable partner to share the costs for our own project in the future.It is unclear how the deal will be finalized and what the delivery schedules will be, but what we do know is that Spain wants to hand over a total of 10 A400Ms to another country air force, without taking into service. And I think the other important detail is that the Hurjet will be configured as an advanced training jet and light attack jet not only for the air force but also for the naval aviation, which creates a significant potential for future Turkish-Spanish defense industry cooperation.
R-400(10) sadly I can't differentiate between 400 and 410New T70 delivery to the air force. See the lack of "Purplehawk" color scheme, new low vis roundel being applied on it and the flir on the nose. Anyone can make up the model?