TR Turkish Air Forces|News & Discussion

[boredaf]

While the decision to proceed with Özgür-II is being made, what exactly will we leave out of the package approved by the senate?

This is everything we wanted

https://www.dsca.mil/sites/default/files/mas/Press%20Release%20-%20Turkey%2023-07%20CN.pdf

You have to subtract anything that has to do with modernisation to find the remaining stuff. For example, we wanted 149 AESA radars but 99 of those were for modernisation (installed + spares) now we'll just get 50 instead (40 installed + spares) and so on.

 

[Saithan]

Tbh I just thought about that it might have been a good idea to get some upgrade kits, I am not sure if it comes like a package and we can upgrade the F16 if we want, or does it come in installments so we never get the whole thing without having started an upgrade..

I was thinking (in theory) Iraqi F16 could be upgraded, PAF F16 could be upgraded and such stuff, in different scenarios. I don't imagine those two countries will be receiving anything from US anymore...

 

[Iskander]

the thing is, I don't have any pieces left in me to give the benefit of the doubt to the US-Turkiye bilateral relations. They would, like Germans, always seek the chance to fuck us over and they have the window of opportunity due to our mismanaged economy. They will be teasing us to force us to walk their path but it will be an ever eluding target.

Besides, the talk of "they saw KAAN, understood our progress and gave in to sell F35s" sounds fishy to me when KAAN's success is contingent on the delivery of the US engines. Bear in mind that we won't see an operational TF35K for a decade or so.

Since Washington refused to supply Turkey with F35, much has changed in the world, especially in Europe. A war has begun in Europe that threatens to escalate into a world war. (After all, both world wars began in Europe)
It seems that it is time for Washington to think about the question: "Whose interests are more important to the Americans: the Armenian, Greek, Israeli lobby or the national interests of America?" I look at events from this point of view, including the "dance" around the F35.