Turkish American relationship

[GoatsMilk]

Same feelings here! Except your comment in last paragraph where you mention AK party supporters being happy. If you investigate who they really are, you will find that 90% of them are poor and lowly educated (primary school or lower) ignorant group of people who will applaud on anything their leader will say. So they don’t really know what the realities of Turkey are. The other 10% or so, are people who are the beneficiaries of AK party decisions. So they don’t give a sh.t.
When they were in cahoots with Feto&Co, AK party leaders were supporting ISIS. According to then FM; ISIS were a bunch of some youngsters who were angry with the Syrian regime.
They gave us this sick and impossible to cure baby called Syria in our hands. After US and Feto tried to topple the government and endangered the lives and livelihood of AK party leaders the Syrian policy changed 180 degrees. Now our poor soldiers are dying. Unfortunately Turkey is being managed and governed by people who can be easily “deceived”; as they have admitted in the past that they have been deceived. (Feto, Obama etc etc)
So keep fighting!

Where the americans and europeans completely miscalculated was in judging Turkeys military capability and resolve to fight. They were expecting Turkey to be another typically useless middle eastern/muslim army.

They thought if they create enough problems in Syria Turkey would be either be to scared enter because of american/russian threats against Turkey, or if they did enter they would end up suffering many causalities and much like the iran/iraq war be unable to take land.

For example when Turkey moved into the east of syria, the americans and europeans had planned on their ypg terrorist army to drag Turkey into a quagmire that would last many months with Turkey gaining nothing. It took the Turks 3 days to completely break the ypg lines only for their western saviours to rush in and create another "ceasefire" to curtail Turkish gains and keep their communist terrorists alive. They tried to play the same games in the recent Karabagh war rushing to create ceasefires to the armenians advantage.

The truth is where 'ever we see the Turkish military involve herself we are seeing results, whether it be the idlib retaliation that shocked the world, when the Turks wiped out over 3000 iranian shia terrorists in 3 to 4 days of conflict. To Libya where the GNA was revived from death to even send the russian wagner boys running, to most recently support in Karabagh which left Russia sitting in a corner as their ally got destroyed for the entire world to witness.

Ironically all of these designs, agendas and threats on Turkish sovereignty has lead to a Turkey that finds herself expanding. Bases in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Cyprus, Somalia, Qatar, Albania, with more bases to come in the future, especially as we see Turkey expand into Ukraine and Azerbaijan. All of these attacks on Turkey is reviving an imperial past for the Turks.

 

[the]

We believe that we will open a new page with the management of Biden.
We are ready to do this, we are ready for full cooperation.
- İbrahim Kalın | CNN International

Either they are really keen on rebuilding relations, or its out of desperation - in regards to senate pressure put on Biden to "punish" Turkey.

 

[the]

We call upon Turkey to immediately leave Osman Kavala free.
• These delays undermine respect for the rule of law and democracy.
• Also US citizen Dr. We believe the charges against Barkey are unfounded.

- US Department of State

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1359635009557135370

 

[dBSPL]

Support statement (for Boğaziçi events) published by terrorist elements which are occupying Ayn el Arab.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Et5YYkhWQAY6_m2?format=jpg&name=large

On these hours, the US State Department also made a statement containing three immediate demands from Turkey. Of course they want Osman Kavala back. If US gives its horse, may also lose one of its rook. On the same hours, Turkish Armed Forces is throwing a "hardcore party" in the base area called the heart of the pkk. Things will get much uglier. The Turkish hinterland is literally deadlocked by US perpective and the functions of diplomacy become very narrow. We are moving towards the highest point of crisis.

 

[what]

We call upon Turkey to immediately leave Osman Kavala free.
• These delays undermine respect for the rule of law and democracy.
• Also US citizen Dr. We believe the charges against Barkey are unfounded.

- US Department of State

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1359635009557135370

Good that they are calling out the injustice in the country.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1359638241935253504

 

[mulj]

Good that they are calling out the injustice in the country.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1359638241935253504

ok, when they plan to deliver fetulah gulen? this usual moralizing from usa is everything but not good thing unless they are ready for reciprocity in mutual relations.

 

[dBSPL]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1359263847849336835

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1359836736222879750

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1359849475045535745

 

[adenl]

Good that they are calling out the injustice in the country.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1359638241935253504

You find foreign interference in your judiciary 'good'?

 

[dBSPL]

We have to understand well how US imperialism is preparing for what. We need to see what tools remained after the US interventions through the mass manipulation over media tools and judiciary conspiracies, colored revolution tries, the civil war and the military coup attempts, economic blockades and all together with all of these post-truth works against Turkey. We have to develop counter strategies. My advice to Turkish friends in the forum is to bind their belts.

 

[mulj]

We have to understand well how US imperialism is preparing for what. We need to see what tools remained after the US interventions through the mass manipulation over media tools and judiciary conspiracies, colored revolution tries, the civil war and the military coup attempts, economic blockades and all together with all of these post-truth works against Turkey. We have to develop counter strategies. My advice to Turkish friends in the forum is to bind their belts.

In other words Turkey is screwed if there is not counter strategy, this is to much to handle without major consequences.

 

[GoatsMilk]

We have to understand well how US imperialism is preparing for what. We need to see what tools remained after the US interventions through the mass manipulation over media tools and judiciary conspiracies, colored revolution tries, the civil war and the military coup attempts, economic blockades and all together with all of these post-truth works against Turkey. We have to develop counter strategies. My advice to Turkish friends in the forum is to bind their belts.

Keep the Turkish military active is the only real answer to all these designs against Turkey and the region. Nothing will be given to us that we cannot take for ourselves.

 

[what]

You find foreign interference in your judiciary 'good'?

No I prefer no interference, neither from inside or outside. But that guy has been in jail for over two years without any trial and only bogus reasons because the judicary has not been independent for a while now.

 

[guest12]

No I prefer no interference, neither from inside or outside. But that guy has been in jail for over two years without any trial and only bogus reasons because the judicary has not been independent for a while now.

Too bad after today it doesnt matter hes guilty period.Hes clearly an American asset.

 

[what]

Too bad after today it doesnt matter hes guilty period.Hes clearly an American asset.

And what is his crime?

 

[guest12]

And what is his crime?

Being American asset? If nothing else he needs to be punished to send a message to rest of assets still in the country.

 

[mulj]

Being American asset? If nothing else he needs to be punished to send a message to rest of assets still in the country.

Did you know that Osman Kavala (one of the founding members of HDP) owns MIKES? As part of the CCIP program, did you also know that the MIKES company is modernizing our F-16s? In other words, our F-16 source codes were in the hands of the PKK, FETO and the US man.

tweet copy, if true this is quite enough to lock him up for certain amount of time until you change coding on f16.

 

[what]

Continue making things up to justify an innocent men being locked up in jail.

Do you think if any of the BS you spread was true he would have been convicted by now?

With a democracy and justice understanding like that, there's no point in discussing shit with you.

 

[mulj]

Do not take it personal, is this mentiomed above true or not?

 

[Deliorman]

Pastor Brunson was also a terrorist and a foreign agent and Turkish Judiciary was independent and had enough evidence for all of his crimes... Can someone remind me how it all ended?

ps If Brunson was guilty or innocent I don’t know but the thing I know is that as a result of the stupid Prisoner Diplomacy the Turkish economy was severely damaged. If you don’t have the brain and the balls to play these games- then just don’t play them.

 

[Mustafa27]

Did you know that Osman Kavala (one of the founding members of HDP) owns MIKES? As part of the CCIP program, did you also know that the MIKES company is modernizing our F-16s? In other words, our F-16 source codes were in the hands of the PKK, FETO and the US man.

tweet copy, if true this is quite enough to lock him up for certain amount of time until you change coding on f16.

MIKES originally got it if i remember by bribery if but then due to disruptions in the project it was given to Aselsan and nationalized. I could be wrong is well. Let me do some research actually.

Apparently Aselsan got 72% share of MIKES in 2001. We got the source code in 2011 so i am remembering it wrong.