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[dBSPL]

There is so much active military operation and high risk situation that engines of existing MBTs can not cool at all.

We do not yet have an armored amphibious unit in the command of the naval forces. These tanks belong to the inventory of the Land Forces Command and i guess these are assigning from the near units determined by the 4th Army and 1st Army. But some changes can be expected in the future as replacement and command planning of armored units, within the capacity to be formed with 2 LHD (Anadolu-), 4 new generation heavy LST (Bayraktar class) and other fast landing ships.

So there is no need to attach great importance to current M-48s that we see in exercises. Even now, Leo2s could be main landing tank of these ships if needed. Surely, the structure of the Amphibious Brigade and this issue probably will be another popular defense forum discusson after TCG Anadolu will start active duty.

 

[Turko]

Where have the Navy Kaplan STAs been since they are amphibious?
Notice the propellers

Bir makine tüm fonksiyonları kullanılmadığı zaman, Prangaya vurulmuş köle gibi geliyor bana.

 

[Kartal1]

There is so much active military operation and high risk situation that engines of existing MBTs can not cool at all.

We do not yet have an armored amphibious unit in the command of the naval forces. These tanks belong to the inventory of the Land Forces Command and i guess these are assigning from the near units determined by the 4th Army and 1st Army. But some changes can be expected in the future as replacement and command planning of armored units, within the capacity to be formed with 2 LHD (Anadolu-), 4 new generation heavy LST (Bayraktar class) and other fast landing ships.

So there is no need to attach great importance to current M-48s that we see in exercises. Even now, Leo2s could be main landing tank of these ships if needed. Surely, the structure of the Amphibious Brigade and this issue probably will be another popular defense forum discusson after TCG Anadolu will start active duty.

I think that a dedicated tank unit should be established within the Amphibious Operation Group Command. Another thing that I would like to see is dedicated helicopter unit for SAT the same way as OKK have such.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Preveze Denizaltı Yarı Ömür Modernizasyonu | SavunmaSanayiST

Preveze Denizaltı Yarı Ömür Modernizasyonu Projesi ile Türk Deniz Kuvvetleri envanterinde bulunan dört adet denizaltı, yerli imkanlarla modernize edilecektir.

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Preveze class submarines are being modernised to become even deadlier. They will have new MUREN battle management system with new heavy class Akya torpedoes. Almost all foreign based systems will be replaced with indigenously produced counterparts..
First delivery of modernised sub is expected to be in 2023.

 

[Turko]

Will TCG ANADOLU have VLS?

As you know my crazy ideas, TCG ANADOLU should have areal Defence Systems since it's landing helicopter dock. The TCG ANADOLU seems to be epicenter of warfare in combat scenario.

Look at italian LHD example ITS Cavour with Slyver a 43 VlS 4x8 cells.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Will TCG ANADOLU have VLS?

As you know my crazy ideas, TCG ANADOLU should have areal Defence Systems since it's landing helicopter dock. The TCG ANADOLU seems to be epicenter of warfare in combat scenario.

Look at italian LHD example ITS Cavour with Slyver a 43 VlS 4x8 cells. View attachment 12916 View attachment 12917 View attachment 12918 View attachment 12919 View attachment 12920

I do not think it is a crazy idea. In fact I find it a very plausible and necessary move. As well as defensive missiles like G40, Siper with VLS , and Gokdeniz and Sungur CWIS protective weapons; our TCG Anadolu should also have attack missiles like Atmaca, Bora, TRG300.
so that we can call it “Destroyer Helicopter Ship”.

 

[Turko]

I do not think it is a crazy idea. In fact I find it a very plausible and necessary move. As well as defensive missiles like G40, Siper with VLS , and Gokdeniz and Sungur CWIS protective weapons; our TCG Anadolu should also have attack missiles like Atmaca, Bora, TRG300.
so that we can call it “Destroyer Helicopter Ship”.

İ would also write about TRG 300 but thought people would find it too much

 

[Yasar_TR]

İ would also write about TRG 300 but thought people would find it too much

Not only trg300 ! I have added Bora missile as well. By the time TCG Anadolu is in service we should have Bora2 available. This should have 500km range with capability to hit moving sea targets.

 

[Turko]

Not only trg300 ! I have added Bora missile as well. By the time TCG Anadolu is in service we should have Bora2 available. This should have 500km range with capability to hit moving sea targets.

İ don't think they could find place for BORA. Nonetheless BORA would burn deck if you put. Gezgin with 1000km would be enough.

 

[Yasar_TR]

İ don't think they could find place for BORA. Nonetheless BORA would burn deck if you put. Gezgin with 1000km would be enough.

The deck has been covered with special material to withstand VSTOL f135’s extreme heat! Finding a place is the tricky part. It can be added as a basket in a corner or at the side! If there is a will there is always a way!

 

[Turko]

The deck has been covered with special material to withstand VSTOL f135’s extreme heat! Finding a place is the tricky part. It can be added as a basket in a corner or at the side! If there is a will there is always a way!

Chinese first helicopter carrier will have basket balconies for two VLS as you said.

Edit:

Another one comes from Nation-states 4 pantsir and Mk41 vls

 

[Huelague]

Not only trg300 ! I have added Bora missile as well. By the time TCG Anadolu is in service we should have Bora2 available. This should have 500km range with capability to hit moving sea targets.

Bora-2 will have more likely 1000 km range.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Bora-2 will have more likely 1000 km range.

Not unless they make it longer and/or wider. That size missile’s maximum range is about 550-600km if you push it! Just check a the Chinese(B611-BP12A) and Russian(Iskander) derivatives of the same ilk.

 

[Huelague]

Not unless they make it longer and/or wider. That size missile’s maximum range is about 550-600km if you push it! Just check a the Chinese(B611-BP12A) and Russian(Iskander) derivatives of the same ilk.

They will make it longer and wider I guess.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Chinese first helicopter carrier will have basket balconies for two VLS as you said.

Edit:

View attachment 12931

Another one comes from Nation-states 4 pantsir and Mk41 vls

Your picture of Cavour! Those VLS missile silos look like they have been added afterwards so there is still chance for our TCG Anadolu!

 

[Yasar_TR]

They will make it longer and wider I guess.

Then it will not be Bora!
Bora/Khan/Yildirim is 600mm diameter missile family.
Even within this family when significant change has occurred the nomenclature has changed.
A different diameter missile will be differently named!

 

[Anmdt]

Will TCG ANADOLU have VLS?

As you know my crazy ideas, TCG ANADOLU should have areal Defence Systems since it's landing helicopter dock. The TCG ANADOLU seems to be epicenter of warfare in combat scenario.

Look at italian LHD example ITS Cavour with Slyver a 43 VlS 4x8 cells. View attachment 12916 View attachment 12917 View attachment 12918 View attachment 12919 View attachment 12920

In my opinion a short VLS mainly to be equipped with G40 for point defence will be purposeful.
32 x 4 missiles can be carried, with a fixed panel aesa radar as illimunator multiple threats can be engaged.
While other flotilla ships can focus on medium-long range air defense or amphibious support (such as bayraktar class equipped with rocket artillery, TF-2000 with Gezgin, USVs with Kuzgun)
A ship doesn't necessarily needs all systems while there is a proper flotilla, command structure and network based CMS.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Greece’s request from Germany to stop technical help in producing new Turkish submarines have bee turned down. Germans have said that the whole contract is signed and sealed and can not be tampered with.

Almanya: “Türkiye’nin denizaltı projesini durduramayız” | SavunmaSanayiST

Yunanistan’ın, Türkiye ile Almanya tarafından yürütülen Reis Sınıfı Denizaltı Projesi’nin durdurulması ilişkin talebi Alman Savunma Bakanı tarafından reddedildi

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[Yasar_TR]

Confirmed!
F515 Frigate is to have an Aesa based radar called HAZAR by Aselsan with a range of 250km.

TCG İSTANBUL’a ASELSAN HAZAR Radarı | SavunmaSanayiST

İSTİF Sınıfı Fırkateynlerin ilki olan TCG İSTANBUL (F-515) ile birlikte AESA mimarisine sahip ASELSAN HAZAR Radarı Türk Deniz Kuvvetleri envanterine alınacaktır

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[Turko]

In my opinion a short VLS mainly to be equipped with G40 for point defence will be purposeful.
32 x 4 missiles can be carried, with a fixed panel aesa radar as illimunator multiple threats can be engaged.
While other flotilla ships can focus on medium-long range air defense or amphibious support (such as bayraktar class equipped with rocket artillery, TF-2000 with Gezgin, USVs with Kuzgun)
A ship doesn't necessarily needs all systems while there is a proper flotilla, command structure and network based CMS.

Ooo. TCG ANADOLU won't have ATMACA ?are there any information Türkish Nay going to do with LHD? İ mean Which weapons will it have ?