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Guys, I am not saying that Gökdeniz or Phalanx are bad or Sea Zenith is better.

in the stern we had two Sea Zeniths and we're replacing them with a single Phalanx. Instead we could add a Mk 49 on top of the hangar where the phalanx is now and keep the Sea Zeniths on the sides.

I think it would be money much better spent. It would be the best protected MEKO in the world. And the best protected ship in Turkish Navy.

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Main factors for Sea Zenith being replaced

1) Difficulty of integrating with new electronic systems
2) High costs of maintaining

I hope when Sea Zenith dissembled they doesn't get scraped, destroyed etc. It's an unique system compared to other CIWS. We should have at least 1, displayed at naval museum.
 

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I hope when Sea Zenith dissembled they doesn't get scraped, destroyed etc. It's an unique system compared to other CIWS. We should have at least 1, displayed at naval museum.
LOL no. It will end up as scrap in a Turkish tank promo video. Like the Phantoms.
 

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Am I the only one who finds this disappointing? We didn't need Gökdeniz or Phalanx... We could keep the Sea Zenith and add RAM wouldn't that be much better?
Sea Zenith sucks. No one has Sea Zenith expect Russia.
 

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They made it Combo

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That is one expensive defensive set-up. But that ship needed something like that. Now it is the turn of ESSM or G40 launchers! That will complete one level of defence at least.
It is not an actual set up not even a conceptual one, but rather mythological, something made by an intern, morelikely a person who doesn't understand a bit about the ships or the weapon systems :).
 

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It is not an actual set up not even a conceptual one, but rather mythological, something made by an intern, morelikely a person who doesn't understand a bit about the ships or the weapon systems :).
Then for a person like that, a great insight at least. That ship needs as much defensive missiles as you can cram in to it’s nooks and crannies. Since we won’t have TF2000 for along time, we should take a page from Japan’s, re: of their “helicopter destroyers” Like the Hyuga class: check out the front of the ship!
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Navy would ask for a customized turret derived from Altay's and also a modified medium tank with up to date armored protection.
Just need some time. :)
are the kaplan MT can accommodate 120 mm turret from altay?
 

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are the kaplan MT can accommodate 120 mm turret from altay?
It can but what would be point to install a heavy gun on top of a light tank?
It is supposed to be light so it is equipped with 105mm.
 

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It can but what would be point to install a heavy gun on top of a light tank?
It is supposed to be light so it is equipped with 105mm.
You can use a low pressure variant of 120 mm which is lighter, instead of 105 mm, depending on your ammo stock.
 

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What type of warship are these at Tuzla istanbul shipyards ? 90 meter ! school warships ?
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Why on earth security of President's summer house needs a Corvette ?
I quit all brain storms about TN warships.

We are just fucking our brains here.


Biz burada Türk Donanması Ege'de Akdeniz'de Yunan'a , Araba karşı savaşta VLSli Hisar O lu korvetleri olsun, ezik kalmasın diye kendi kendimize eziyet ediyoruz. Meğerse koskoca korvetin görevi yazlık bekçiliğiymiş.
 

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TF2000 is Close To Starting the Programme​

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TF2000 is Close To Starting the Programme


Turkish Anti-Air Warfare (AAW) destroyer TF-2000 is close to starting the programme but waits for the correct formula. The long waited destroyer programme is part of the National Ship (MILGEM) project scope. The MİLGEM Project aims to meet the warship requirements of the Turkish navy through national means: Corvette (ADA Class), Frigate (I class) and Destroyer (TF-2000 class). TurDef has learned critical problems that are waiting for the solution.​


TF2000 is Close To Starting the Programme

TF2000 class will provide survivability in the presence of aerial threats and also support mission functions such as command, control, and communications, reconnaissance, early warning, surface warfare, anti-submarine warfare and electronic warfare. The multi-function Phased Array Radar (ÇAFRAD) is the main sensor of the ship. The radar system combines indigenous design with the latest technological advances, including fully solid-state transmit/receive modules, digital signal processing, pulse compression, multiple target tracking, electronic beam stabilization, and advanced electronic counter-counter measures. ÇAFRAD suite creates detailed long-range recognized air pictures with multitasking functionality.
TF2000 is Close To Starting the Programme
Turkish navy is the end-user of the destroyer and has important input and feedback about the requirements of the ship. It established the Design Project Office (DPO) in 2017. The Presidency of Defence Industries is the one that governs that industry. The navy wants to design its ship and build it in navy shipyards. In navy terms, those are vital phases. The DPO staff is very experienced, but there might be unexpected, never considered before issues. Design and build in its own facilities provide some degree of relief to the navy. Last-minute changes can be adopted to the ship. Private shipyards would demand amendment in the contract. SSB, however, consider the integrity of Turkish industry and private shipyards to the project. The integration starts from the design phase, where ships are designed according to the navy’s requirements. Once the vessel is designed, it can be built in Turkey and be also exported.
TF2000 is Close To Starting the Programme


The design activities of the AAW Project is, therefore, at the moment at the preliminary stage. The studies are conducted, and the platform’s configuration is being evaluated as the weapon systems and sensors havecritical importance, but no decision is taken. Once the decision is made, the design phase may start according to the decision. The acquisition programme, which consists of design, prototype and serial production phases, may begin at once.
The ÇAFRAD will have the capability to detect the surface and air tracks from a long distance and provide data to engage if required within the longest possible range of weapons, creating a layered air defence. The X Band radar will be the most important sensor of the destroyer. In 2019, several tests were carried out with the ÇAFRAD Test Group, where the ESSM Missile shot down the target aircraft. Even though the system has passed most of the critical milestones, Turdef learned that the cost of radar is one of the concerns as the price of ÇAFRAD greatly affects the cost of the ship.
TF2000 is Close To Starting the Programme

Even though Turkey has lost time on the project, there is no alternative option on the table. Following Royal Navy’s Type 45 HMS Defender AAW destroyer’s visit to Istanbul, some publishers commented that the UK might want to sell Type 45 to Turkey. TurDef has asked this option to both parties. Both parties ensured that there is no such intention. The ship harboured to Istanbul only for the promotion of UK Industrial Day. “

TF2000 is Close To Starting the Programme


 

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