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Nothing was done to akp so nothing will be done to chp.
Sadly the truth
As long as the HDP controls the minds of the kurdish citizens in Turkey; no action will be taken against them or their supporters whether it was the CHP or the AKP

Lets not forget that whoever will support the HDP will get the West's blessings which is a fantastic shield to use as a cover

We used to say the AKP is on the wrong path with the HDP and the CHP leaders around the 2010s were criticising them but nothing happened. Now, the AKP is criticizing CHP's friendship with the HDP and nothing will happen to them
 

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So glad he has his own party now... This man is our only hope. He is a true Turkist. Yeni Akit and other pro-AKP newspapers have already begun calling his party "racist".

 
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Clown world diyanet and akp members come before the TSK
 

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Messages full of love and wishes for the prosperity and progress and somene dare to call presodent Erdogam dictator and govement regime :).

Yeah he is an dictator who only carws abput giving his relatives more jobs on the goverment and spitting on the constituion everytime? He stole goverment funds to make himself richer etc
 

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Messages full of love and wishes for the prosperity and progress and somene dare to call presodent Erdogam dictator and govement regime :).

At least chp doesn't say "We have weapons stashed in the forests if we lose we shall attack the enemies of islam" CHP seems more peaceful who am ı to talk didn't the bosnian islamists beheaded people for being christian lol
 

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Yeah he is an dictator who only carws abput giving his relatives more jobs on the goverment and spitting on the constituion everytime? He stole goverment funds to make himself richer etc
At least chp doesn't say "We have weapons stashed in the forests if we lose we shall attack the enemies of islam" CHP seems more peaceful who am ı to talk didn't the bosnian islamists beheaded people for being christian lol
I still dont understand CHP fanatics tbh
What are you trying to prove here? Are you trying to say that Erdo is a dictator so he should go and replace him with an even worse dictator?
What are you ppl trying to get from toppling the AKP exactly? A better future or just venting out your anger against islamists?

If you did kick the AKP, for venting against islamists, then voila you succeeded and traitorous secularists will rule the country for 100 more years until the islamists rise again and take revenge on the secularists for another 100 years and the cycle will continue to repeat itself
If you did kick the AKP for a better future, then I assure you that the CHP isnt the answer; CHP are quickly deviating from their core values of integrity and honour by bowing to the west, restoring FETO schools, allying with the HDP, and ABOVE ALL questioning the Turkish rights (Blue Homeland) in the Med East. Moreover, since their probability in winning the elections is increasing they are starting to shed their docile faces and are starting to use abusive languages to indicate that they will destroy all sorts of opposition after they succeed. That is not a healthy party; thus, it wont lead to a heealthy government which means you guys will be stuck in stagnation or even regression

The only ppl who are auffering from the traitorous CHP and the thieves in the AKP are the common turks and the poor turkish soldiers who will be killed again in their own soil when the PKK starts re-organising their ranks post 2023

Truly, you guys are stuck in a pitiful cycle
 

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I still dont understand CHP fanatics tbh
What are you trying to prove here? Are you trying to say that Erdo is a dictator so he should go and replace him with an even worse dictator?
What are you ppl trying to get from toppling the AKP exactly? A better future or just venting out your anger against islamists?

If you did kick the AKP, for venting against islamists, then voila you succeeded and traitorous secularists will rule the country for 100 more years until the islamists rise again and take revenge on the secularists for another 100 years and the cycle will continue to repeat itself
If you did kick the AKP for a better future, then I assure you that the CHP isnt the answer; CHP are quickly deviating from their core values of integrity and honour by bowing to the west, restoring FETO schools, allying with the HDP, and ABOVE ALL questioning the Turkish rights (Blue Homeland) in the Med East. Moreover, since their probability in winning the elections is increasing they are starting to shed their docile faces and are starting to use abusive languages to indicate that they will destroy all sorts of opposition after they succeed. That is not a healthy party; thus, it wont lead to a heealthy government which means you guys will be stuck in stagnation or even regression

The only ppl who are auffering from the traitorous CHP and the thieves in the AKP are the common turks and the poor turkish soldiers who will be killed again in their own soil when the PKK starts re-organising their ranks post 2023

Truly, you guys are stuck in a pitiful cycle
AKP is more traitorous than CHP tbh they didn't even fought against pkk till 2015 Their whole foreign policy is "WE HAVE ALLAH NOOO ECONOMY IS DYING NOOO" They tried to fuck up with other countries internal politics. Even still turkish soldiers are dying thanks to AKP I take chp against those apes called akp all the time
 

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AKP is literally threating turkish citizens with civil war who is more peaceful?
 

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AKP is more traitorous than CHP tbh they didn't even fought against pkk till 2015 Their whole foreign policy is "WE HAVE ALLAH NOOO ECONOMY IS DYING NOOO" They tried to fuck up with other countries internal politics. Even still turkish soldiers are dying thanks to AKP I take chp against those apes called akp all the time
Certainly its true that the AKP pre 2015 used to be in cahoots with the HDP. However, rn the AKP are the ones butchering the HDP/PKK. Iam not saying to ignore their prior mistakes; However, rn, their main competitor (the CHP) wants to make the SAME DAMN MISTAKES as the AKP from before.
In other words, because AKP used to betray the country by allying with the HDP, you guys will kick them out and replace them with a party that supports the HDP? What amazing logic is that! This is just pure idiocy tbh. No wonder you guys are still suffering from internat unrest and no wonder the West can control your internal politics this easily

I will just leave a message to you Turks. "If the Turks dont learn from their previous mistakes and still ally with the HDP, then the HDP will learn from their previous mistakes so that whwn the CHP turns their back on them (just like with the AKP) The punishment wont just be a bunch of Turkish soldiers but possibly common citizens if not actual independence movement
If you turks wont learn, then the Kurds will learn. That is 100% true
 

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AKP is literally threating turkish citizens with civil war who is more peaceful?
The problem here is that you will be saying the same damn words to the CHP 5 years from now
Then what have the turks gained from the position change?
 

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The problem here is that you will be saying the same damn words to the CHP 5 years from now
Then what have the turks gained from the position change?
Not really chp managed the country far better than akp even 1974. Playing for hdp is just to get votes just like erdogan a georgian acting like a nationalist now
 

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Turkish people are Intelligent Turkish people are hard working -Ataturk (The fella in the picture is trying to make fun of ecevit)
 

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Even Aksener is keen on making peace with Assad..............


Am I right in thinking that more people (mainly young ) support repairing ties with Syria?

I suppose its quite the predicament, on the one hand people use nationalism as a motive to 'send back Syrians' in Turkey, so 'Turks' can 're-access' jobs 'taken by Syrians' - who perhaps wouldn't mind the lower pay. On the other hand, there are those who use nationalism to back the notion of operations in Northern Syria.

Its a real shame, because for some reason, Erdogan doesn't see that Russia not only back Assad - who bomb's Turkish allies and even Turkish troops, but he fails to see that Russia continues to fly over Idlib actively targeting Turkish bases. Anytime there's an operation its always to push back Kurdish militias, rather than dealing with the real problem, Russia and the Syrian regime.


I mean look at this ^, Erdogan is desperate to enhance trade between USA (which is largely untapped - and can be source for export growth) but at the same time he criticises Biden........

"Erdogan says he will have a private meeting with Putin on Sep 29, no other officials would be allowed to join • We will make a decision on the fate of the Turkish, Russian relations. We will also discuss Syria • We haven’t seen any Russian mistake towards our relations".

And if you look at the real problem in Syria (Russia and Regime) he says the complete opposite. I mean what do you expect out of this "private meeting"? Putin is obviously going to do what is possible to re-take land (I wouldn't be surprised if Russian jets are in the air bombing Turkish soldiers at the time of the meeting).

Assad wants Idlib. Russia will do what is necessary to make sure that the rest of Northern Syria is retaken - imagine the political clout Russia would recieve for 'ending the Syrian civil war' and recovering 95% of Syrian land... That's why any cooperation what so ever with Russia is political suicide.....

Further, what does one expect to be the result of the meeting on Idlib?

1) If Turkey co-operates it mostly likely means giving up further land south of the M4 highway --> however, eventually you'd expect the SAA to demand more land (eventually give up the entirety of Idlib). This would certainly result in mass movement of over 3.5 million Syrian refugees towards Turkey.......

2) Turkey does not co-operate with Russia: Russia steps up its bombing campaign on Idlib, perhaps clearing way for a SAA operation in the south. This once again leads to wave of refugees heading towards the Turkish border.

  • Turkey must be willing to start a massive operation to take the entirety of northern Syria (to have control of the border) and then, reinforce this with land bases and a sort of "Iron Dome" system to intercept missiles of the border. Only then can one talk about settling of Refugees.....
  • Either that or you make peace with someone. Assad or SDF
 
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