TR Turkiye's F-35 Project and Discussions

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In a radio show were they were discussing geopolitical stuff a few years ago they said how unlike us Greeks who give everything to the USA and the West and don't take anything back in return, how Turkey is with Russia then with USA and the West, then with Russia again then with the USA and the West again and what will you, Russia, offer us to be on your side? And what will you, USA and the West, offer to us to be on your side?
They said Turkey gains things playing between the two, the East and the West, but at one point the time will come to chose, East or West? The geopolitical analyst said Turkey will chose the West and when they do Turks should know that the Russian bear bites and it will be a nasty bite for Turkey.
If you say look at Ukraine and the difficulty the Russians face there. They were saying yesterday on the radio if Putin wants he can pick up the phone, give an order and finish Ukraine yesterday. They claimed with all Russia's casualties there is a reason they don't put all their strength there. Now, if something happens in the straights and Russia puts all its strength against Turkey? And I don't believe it will be Turkey against just Russia, or against just Greece, or against just Israel. Until know with all the strength of the Turkish army and your military industry you fought and won rebels and in countries already devastated and destroyed by civil wars. The Turkish army choses where to fight. On 1922 and 1974 when the Greek army fought seriously you won nothing. The Greek politicians messed things. That from Manzikert until 1974 and Imia 1996. If you check what really happened every time a Turkish army wone(?) a Greek army. Wone(?) because each single time we lost from Turks the politicians interfered and messed things and it is the bad habbit we Greeks have since Ancient Greece and... the Greek army won the Greek army and not the Turkish army which takes the glory and talks big.

If they give the F-35s do you thing they will give them to you to use them against Greece and Israel? If they help you to reinforce your army they want you to use it against Russia. There are people here in Greece who claim USA didn't sell us the F-35s to use against Turkey, but against Russia. They claim if there was a war between Greece and Turkey we shouldn't be surprised if we couldn't even turn them on.
The opinion of Greek so called geopolitical analysts isn't worth the paper it is written on.
Cozy up to Russia and Germany will make sure you Greeks bring your own medication to hospital visits for the next 30 years, considering the money they're pouring into the military and Ukraine
 

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They will probably pay us some money, less than what we paid to Russians and that is it. We will be at a net loss.
The transfer of second-hand military systems would never be equal to the initial acquisition costs. That's acceptable. But, for example, if this deal were with Qatar; it could be offset against the 'bare aircraft' price that Türkiye has to pay for 24 EFTs, or perhaps we could even acquire ownership of 4 C-17s on top of that, hehe. Anyway, if barter possibilities aren't on the table, let's hope this transfer happens as soon as possible.
 

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"Turkiye did not pay $2.5 billion for the S-400s. The project included the firm purchase of one system and an option for a second system that was never purchased. We only purchased the first system. An estimated payment of between $1.25 and $1.5 billion was made."
 
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