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[Manomed]

Of course, but their knowledge can help us to grow up, with our experience in western technology. Insane combination

they are not compatible

 

[Yasar_TR]

Of course, but their knowledge can help us to grow up, with our experience in western technology. Insane combination

The idea of yours is sound if it were as simple as learning what they are doing and applying some new ideas to our own production techniques.
But in this situation it is quite different.
In combustion engine terms; We are dabbling in producing an overhead camshaft engine with variable valve timing. But they have excelled in high power attainment in overhead valve engine technology.
We don’t really want what they have. Their engine design is very different to ours.
At the moment what we are lacking is the experience in producing and putting together all the relevant parts of a turbofan engine at the right time and right quality level. We need subcontractors that can supply all the auxiliary parts that are needed for a turbofan. We need the full “Eco System” to be in place. The knowledge and expertise is there.
Apart from physically proving to ourselves that we can produce a high powered turbofan, we have what it takes to make a 35000lbf class engine. Also the larger turbine blades for the larger engine have to be produced and proofed that they can sustain working at the high temperatures for an acceptable amount of time. (this according to Dr Aksit, we are confident about).
If you investigate the latest RR Pearl engine technology that uses additive manufacturing techniques and blisk fan technologies; TEI also manufactures these parts with the same said technologies, thanks to GE input.
I agree with your view that; If you bring GE and Safran together and form CFM, you have a much more powerful company with a lot of expertise under their belt. Because they are singing from the same hymn sheet. Their technologies are analogous with each other. In a way they may even complement each other.
But the Russians are way behind in Jet engine technology if compared to the engine technology of US and the West. Their powerful AL41 engine class still uses turbine blades that are produced with directional solidification techniques. Not single crystals. Thanks to very good cooling and ceramic surface covering they can withstand very high temperatures. Nevertheless their turbine blades don’t last even half the time of the western ones. On their Izdeliye30 engine for the SU-57 they are trying Single Crystal with variable by pass technology. But still not achieving success. So I am of the opinion that let them keep their engine technology to themselves. Let’s hurry up and manufacture our own, in stead of just talking.

 

[Agha Sher]

TB2 bombing again in Karabakh. Go to the Karabakh war thread. Could someone please ID the optics?

 

[Huelague]

they are not compatible

Not the technology, but the know how. It doesn’t matter where the knowledge come from.

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1554857630115438596

seems Akinci entering TAF inventory are using pt6a-135

 

[Lool]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1554857630115438596

seems Akinci entering TAF inventory are using pt6a-135

What is the horse power of such engines?

 

[Tornadoss]

What is the horse power of such engines?

750 shp

Engine - PT6A-135

www.euravia.aero

 

[Mustafa27]

Does anyone know if these Akinci-B's have AESA radar, considering they are B variant they should have it but I thought the AESA radar was still under testing?

 

[Agha Sher]

Does anyone know if these Akinci-B's have AESA radar, considering they are B variant they should have it but I thought the AESA radar was still under testing?

confident B is without AESA radar. Happy to being proved wrong tho

 

[Yasar_TR]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1554857630115438596

seems Akinci entering TAF inventory are using pt6a-135

Turkish Air Force received three Bayraktar Akinci UAVs with Ukrainian engines

Turkey's air force received its first batch of attack drones Akinci.

gagadget.com

According to this news, these 3 are, Akinci with 750 HP Motor Sich AI450 engines.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Deniz Kuvvetleri’ne AKSUNGUR teslimatı

Yerli ve milli hava araçlarının Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri'ne teslimatı sürüyor. Son olarak Deniz Kuvvetleri Komutanlığı'na bir adet AKSUNGUR silahlı insansız

haber.aero

One more weaponised Aksungur UAV has been delivered to the Turkish Navy.

Edit:
Tusas and Baykar hard at work delivering UAVs to the Turkish armed forces.
So far 9 Akinci and 3 Aksungur UAVs have been delivered.

TUSAŞ ve BAYKAR'dan Art Arda SİHA Teslimatları

Türk savunma sanayii, güvenlik güçlerine SİHA teslimatlarına devam ediyor. Son iki gün içerisinde Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri, 4 yeni SİHA'yı envanterine kattı.

www.savunmasanayist.com

 

[Siper>MMU]

Deniz Kuvvetleri’ne AKSUNGUR teslimatı

Yerli ve milli hava araçlarının Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri'ne teslimatı sürüyor. Son olarak Deniz Kuvvetleri Komutanlığı'na bir adet AKSUNGUR silahlı insansız

haber.aero

One more weaponised Aksungur UAV has been delivered to the Turkish Navy.
View attachment 46800

I dont get why they are publishing the same airframe over and over. This specific Aksungur delivered at least 3 times LOL

 

[Nutuk]

Aselsan is said to handover AESA radars for testing on the Akinci at the end of the year

 

[Rodeo]

Aselsan is said to handover AESA radars for testing on the Akinci at the end of the year

I thought it was already being integrated to AKINCI. There was some news about it.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Aselsan is said to handover AESA radars for testing on the Akinci at the end of the year

Although it would be a definitely positive albeit expensive asset for Akinci, I am not really looking forward to Akinci having an AESA radar, apart from it being a test bed for the one to go on our Ozgur f16 planes.
What is urgent and vital at the moment is the fact that our f16s need Ozgur modernisations with AESA radars before 2025-26 timeline. Aselsan and SSB should stop dragging their feet and pull out all stops to make sure we have the AESA radar on those planes that are earmarked to have them, do have them asap.
An AESA radar would be much more effective on a supersonic and stealthy MIUS than it is on Akinci. Infact once MIUS is operational it would be the new star of the Turkish armed forces.
Akinci will be a life saver for F16s in domestic and close-border anti terror operations. It would also be very useful for opportunistic and scheduled bombing missions not too far out from our borders with stand off ammunitions.

 

[TR_123456]

a test bed

Cant be tested on a F 16,if so?

 

[Yasar_TR]

Cant be tested on a F 16,if so?

It can be tested on a F16 as well. But it is cheaper to test it on a platform like Akinci to start with, that has much cheaper per hour flight characteristics. Once initial hurdles are passed and the radar is good enough to go on the F16 , then it will be tested on the f16 and integrated.

 

[neosinan]

Cant be tested on a F 16,if so?

Not likely, Our F16 are bought via FMS thus US won't allow it unlike previous small updates. And they can stop selling f16 spare parts and F16V to us. Until, We have no choice or US approves this, Aesa won't be used on our F16s.

Akıncı Aesa tests, would speed up Mius integrations. IMHO, Kızılelma with good Aesa engine and Gökdoğan missile is invaluable to Turkey.

 

[Zafer]

Akıncı with its long station keeping hours can act as a flying radar.

 

[Saithan]

It’s really difficult to tell if the 3 Akinci delivered are with AI-450T or PT6A-135. The airintake are located in the front and below in both design. Maybe @Nilgiri can tell use how to spot the difference.