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[Radonsider]

"Golden Apple"?

Yeah, probably he accidentally said that, don't worry I guess

 

[what]

Guys, let's focus on the topic.

 

[Ryder]

Saudi Arabia has not been a reliable partner for Türkiye because Türkiye was not a reliable partner for them either. We didn't have the strength to be relied on. Türkiye was nobody; no military power with only soldiers but not weapons; no economic power with no technology and capital; no power in diplomacy which could not even defend its citizens. Today's Türkiye is a different one; military power is there; diplomacy is there; technology is getting there; economy size is respectable. They can now rely on Turkish military power for protection and Turkish banking system to park their money. We are living in a different world now.

This is a good post.

 

[Oublious]

22 ülkeyle TB2 için anlaşıldı: 3 yıl doldu, 720 SİHA şimdiden satıldı

Haber 7 - BAYKAR Genel Müdürü Haluk Bayraktar, TB2 için 22 ülkeyle ihracat sözleşmesi yaptıklarını ve üretim hattının 3 yıl boyunca rezerve olduğunu açıkladı. BAYKAR ayda 20 adet TB2 üretiyor; bu da 720 SİHA'nın şimdiden satıldığını gösteriyor.

www.haber7.com

for 3 years they will produce 500 or 400 TB2, total ther are 22 countries who have buyed the drone. They are capable to build 20 TB2 in a month, they are tunning the production line to 30 TB2. They need 3 years to proces the orders. This is a crazy company.....

 

[Huelague]

How can a updated/upgraded TB2 looks like?

 

[Radonsider]

How can a updated/upgraded TB2 looks like?

Enlarged engine housing and more pylons

 

[Yasar_TR]

How can a updated/upgraded TB2 looks like?

TB2 with satcom upgrade -on the left- looks different.
Whatever they have done to the plane it can now accommodate 4 x Mam-L missiles rather than 2 x Mam-L and 2 x Mam-C. (probably at the expense of fuel and altitude)

 

[Huelague]

TB2 with satcom upgrade -on the left- looks different.
Whatever they have done to the plane it can now accommodate 4 x Mam-L missiles rather than 2 x Mam-L and 2 x Mam-C. (probably at the expense of fuel and altitude)
View attachment 46948

What’s the payload of 4 Mam-L? And what about to integrate EW-systems?

 

[Yasar_TR]

What’s the payload of 4 Mam-L? And what about to integrate EW-systems?

Mam-L missiles weigh 22 kg each. But they have missile release mechanisms that add extra weight. One mustn’t forget the weight of Electro Optical laser targeting machinery either. (CATS etc)
What EW system they use is a secret. But that too should add a good deal of weight. However Aselsan’s ground system, Vural EW system should be used together with TB2 to take full advantage.

 

[Huelague]

Mam-L missiles weigh 22 kg each. But they have missile release mechanisms that add extra weight. One mustn’t forget the weight of Electro Optical laser targeting machinery either. (CATS etc)
What EW system they use is a secret. But that too should add a good deal of weight. However Aselsan’s ground system, Vural EW system should be used together with TB2 to take full advantage.

Thats really new for me. I always thougt on external EW system like Koral.

 

[Tornadoss]

TB2 with satcom upgrade -on the left- looks different.
Whatever they have done to the plane it can now accommodate 4 x Mam-L missiles rather than 2 x Mam-L and 2 x Mam-C. (probably at the expense of fuel and altitude)
View attachment 46948

Does addition of the satcom, decrease the payload capacity? Can both orignal tb-2 and tb-2 with satcom carry same number of ammunition?

 

[Huelague]

Does addition of the satcom, decrease the payload capacity? Can both orignal tb-2 and tb-2 with satcom carry same number of ammunition?

How much weight a SatCom in this size? 30-40 kg maybe.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Does addition of the satcom, decrease the payload capacity? Can both orignal tb-2 and tb-2 with satcom carry same number of ammunition?

That is the logical assumption. Because you have satcom capability you can not omit LOS communication. So you would have both. That means extra weight that eats in to your maximum payload capacity.
TB2S, as it was named, may use a different engine. But we have not seen these new satcom versions in operational guise yet.
One thing is definite; That is the fact that due to satcom capability, the TB2 is rendered very resistant to electronic jamming.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Thats really new for me. I always thougt on external EW system like Koral.

The first TB2’s during Euphrates Shield operations were very heavily electronically jammed and could not function properly. AnkaS UAVs with Satcom capabilities were sent in to take over from TB2s. It was only towards the end of the operation that the TB2s became resistant to EW jamming. Similar case was observed in Karabakh where very heavy EW jamming was applied to the TB2s - according to Armenian sources Russians’ latest EW programs were used -. But they only lasted about an hour or two before TB2’s had adapted and started bombing again.
These events clearly show that they possess some form of counter EW capability to blind enemy AD systems that were built in to these UAVs after their deficiency was discovered. But what they are and how much they weigh should be a secret anyway.
Aselsan Vural is the Redet-2 EW system that will replace Koral.

https://www.raillynews.com/2021/12/Vural-electronic-attack-system-was-delivered-to-tskya/Vural-electronic-attack-system-was-delivered-to-tskya/

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1559169079692361728

Aksungur TİHA, which will start firing tests with the Kuzgun, is equipped with TEİ's PD-170 engines.

 

[Huelague]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1559169079692361728

Akıncı TİHA, which will start firing tests with the Kuzgun, is equipped with TEİ's PD-170 engines.

You mean Aksungur.

 

[Bogeyman]

You mean Aksungur.

It coincided with my distraction. It's true.

 

[Combat-Master]

Demand is so high for the legendary Bayraktar drones used to defend against Russia's Ukraine invasion that their Turkish maker has a 3-year waitlist​

Demand is so high for the legendary Bayraktar drones used to defend against Russia's Ukraine invasion that their Turkish maker has a 3-year waitlist

Bayraktar TB2 drones have achieved legendary status in Ukraine after they were used early in the invasion to destroy Russian military equipment.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Fighter_35]

There could be a TISU. Just because it's a render, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. TAI simply has their priorities. And who knows? They might be awaiting further developments on the engine side. The realization of the program could be pretty quick.

When we get rid of akp, instead of giving everything to baykar our state company will produce uçağa too.

 

[Hasanrize]

Right now, TAI has 12.000 employees. More than 2.000 are working on TFX. If needed, more employees can be taken who works on other projects. And yes, much more employees are needed.

About our government, if they would invest more in advertising and selling on TAI products, more income could reach in R&D.

But dont let us devite in TAI and Baykar camps like typical turkish idiots, as we talk about a football club.

TBH, it was TB-2 itself that made its own advertisement. Karabağ first, then Ukraine. They fucking made a song about it.