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Some1 really need to tell TAI to take a page from Baykar's book about PR. Baykar's PR till this date is phenomenal
 

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I dont want to go off topic but at times im worried about Baykar after the brothers leave or retire.

We will not live forever there has been numerous cases of companies collapsing after the original founder.

Ferrari after Enzo Ferrari nearly collapsed until his protege Luca Di montezemolo steered the company away from banktrupcy. Lotus fell off especially in F1 due to Colin Chapman not having a proper successor.

I dont want to be doom and gloom but I hope Baykar will thrive with the brothers choosing a good successor for the future.

Hopefully the company is in good hands.
 

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I dont want to go off topic but at times im worried about Baykar after the brothers leave or retire.

We will not live forever there has been numerous cases of companies collapsing after the original founder.

Ferrari after Enzo Ferrari nearly collapsed until his protege Luca Di montezemolo steered the company away from banktrupcy. Lotus fell off especially in F1 due to Colin Chapman not having a proper successor.

I dont want to be doom and gloom but I hope Baykar will thrive with the brothers choosing a good successor for the future.

Hopefully the company is in good hands.
They are still young around 45, they have a good 30 years of livelihood in them and they will see to the successor matter. But once the Kızılelma does what is expected from it in all its varieties they need to find another big challenge to take on. I suggest they go for biped robots; both for military and civilian.
 

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One another thing to consider for Baykar is after 10+ years, they still act like a startup. Sooner or later that will need to change as they grow larger.
 

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Some1 really need to tell TAI to take a page from Baykar's book about PR. Baykar's PR till this date is phenomenal

Baykar is private company TAI is state so Baykar have strong ambitions to expand it is production capacity to reach bigger budget. However TAI only focus on current projects their production capacity already full and they have to focus future projects, if TAF buy anything it is enough advertising for any company all armies would be interest...
 

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Great that it will arrive as the guest of honor rather than be a static display.
 

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Especially the last 30 seconds have a very cinematic shooting and editing. I think Baykar is preparing an extraordinary documentary for the KE, ranging from design test phase to aggressive manoeuvring capability demonstration.

edit: Akıncı's balls are enormous.
 
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KIZILELMA flying over the sea at 3000 feet ❤️
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A single Kratos XQ-58 Valkyrie only costs $7,750,000 dollars in other words if the Kizilelma or Anka 3 costs more then that is a failure.
Valkyrie is an obese cruise missile(2700kg MTOW) and what you quote is the flyaway cost. It doesn't include sensor payload or weapon payload. It is more like an advanced decoy than an unmanned fighter.
 

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BAYRAKTAR KIZILELMA LAST SITUATION

🔹The 2 prototypes produced will be exhibited at TEKNOFEST.

🔹The National Unmanned Fighter Aircraft will go into mass production in 2024.

🔹KIZILELMA's flight tests from TCG Anadolu will start in 2025.

🔹 KIZILELMA will be able to operate with smart fleet autonomy.
 

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The videos of Hurjet's first flight shows how much underpowered KIZILELMA's airframe is. The differences of take-off speed, angle of attack, first flight altitude, landing speed etc. are prominent.
 

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The videos of Hurjet's first flight shows how much underpowered KIZILELMA's airframe is. The differences of take-off speed, angle of attack, first flight altitude, landing speed etc. are prominent.
I think it's about the engine. KE's current engine is ridiculously underpowered.
 

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The videos of Hurjet's first flight shows how much underpowered KIZILELMA's airframe is. The differences of take-off speed, angle of attack, first flight altitude, landing speed etc. are prominent.

KE is also a much lighter platform, hence the difference in take-off speed, landing speed/smoothness. But I agree with the rest
 

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The videos of Hurjet's first flight shows how much underpowered KIZILELMA's airframe is. The differences of take-off speed, angle of attack, first flight altitude, landing speed etc. are prominent.
Due-to Length of wings , KE should land slower so KE can't approach at higher speeds. It will cause very hard landing and crush.
 

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KE is also a much lighter platform, hence the difference in take-off speed, landing speed/smoothness. But I agree with the rest
Due-to Length of wings , KE should land slower so KE can't approach at higher speeds. It will cause very hard landing and crush.

Take-off speed will be slower for KIZILELMA because of the weight difference, true. Lower mass means lower lift-force required to become airborne, hence lower speed. But If you looked at the still images of KIZILELMA and Hürjet, you'd expect the drone to be at least as fast as the trainer. It has such a menacing look. However, when you watch its flight videos, KIZILELMA looks very cool but it moves like a faster AKINCI. Chugging along to pick up speed. It seems off. It cannot be agile with that engine. I hope they integrate the AI-322F to the aircraft this year so we can truly enjoy an unmanned fighter jet both in words and in action.
 

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