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[MADDOG]

TB3 and KE attending teknofest

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1651211721074262018

 

[Anmdt]

I am more hyped for what's to come after ANKA-III.

 

[Rodeo]

I am more hyped for what's to come after ANKA-III.

A larger, tailless ANKA-IV?

 

[dBSPL]

A larger, tailless ANKA-IV?

True 6th gen fighter aircraft.

I can't look at the document right now, but if memory serves, the next step is jets with agile, more-stealth and swarm autonomy.

 

[LuisantZen]

Good to see that Turkey will have Fighter and Bomber UAVs. Kizilelma and ANKA-III.

 

[Rodeo]

True 6th gen fighter aircraft.

I was always wary of 6th gen aircraft claims, be it the French, English, Japanese and whatnot. There is no definition of it that is agreeed upon by the manufacturers. Let's see what will the Americans come up with and how they'll define it.

Having said that, I think we need a larger ANKA III to be able to utilize our bigger armaments without comprimising the aircraft's RCS(bigger IWB and payload capacity).

 

[LuisantZen]

A larger, tailless ANKA-IV?

Anka-IV will be the wingman of TF-X and first prototype will be shown in 2025. ANKA-III is a bomber UAV while Anka-IV will be a fighter UAV just like Kizilelma. I don't think that Anka IV's efficiency will be the same as Kizilelma's since there will be 3 years between Kizilelma's first flight and Anka-IV's first prototype unveiling.

 

[Zafer]

Engine options will determine the new aircraft possibilities. We need to treat TEI in the best way to make them come up with many engine types. In the helicopter department compound helicopter is the next big thing. Temel Kotil had hinted at that. Also the T925 should be in the pipeline. In the planes department it will be already satisfactory if TUSAŞ matures the already started platforms and once there they can move on.

 

[Yasar_TR]

I was always wary of 6th gen aircraft claims, be it the French, English, Japanese and whatnot. There is no definition of it that is agreeed upon by the manufacturers. Let's see what will the Americans come up with and how they'll define it.

Having said that, I think we need a larger ANKA III to be able to utilize our bigger armaments without comprimising the aircraft's RCS(bigger IWB and payload capacity).

Boeing’s X45 is a good example of what needs to be done about developing a stealth flying wing UCAV/Bomber with a view to improving payload and performance.
X45A is powered by a 6200lbf thrust non afterburner Honeywell F124 turbofan engine. To achieve high payload and better performance they have enlarged the plane and changed the engine to a non afterburner 9040lbf thrust level GE-F404-102D. This gave them over 2 ton payload capacity and much better performance.

We don’t really know exactly which engine is powering this Anka-3 that we are to see flying in the coming days. But if it is the same 3800lbf AI-25 engine as the one currently powering KE, then it is definitely under powered.
As a subsonic stealth flying-wing bomber, it needs to be powered by a non-afterburner engine. Our TF6000 will be the right match for this plane. But to squeeze out more performance and payload capability from it a twin TF6000 version will be the way forward in the years to come. That may even allow for the aircraft to be enlarged accordingly.

X45C

X45A

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Anka-3 from the mouth of Mr Temel Kotil

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Do we know which Engine ANKA-3 is using?

 

[LuisantZen]

Do we know which Engine ANKA-3 is using?

Probably Ivchenko's AI-322 but could be AI-25 too.

 

[Baryshx]

True 6th gen fighter aircraft.

I can't look at the document right now, but if memory serves, the next step is jets with agile, more-stealth and swarm autonomy.

Anka-IV will be the wingman of TF-X and first prototype will be shown in 2025. ANKA-III is a bomber UAV while Anka-IV will be a fighter UAV just like Kizilelma. I don't think that Anka IV's efficiency will be the same as Kizilelma's since there will be 3 years between Kizilelma's first flight and Anka-IV's first prototype unveiling.

 

[Shtr]

Can someone please share with us latest monthly production rate of UAVs at Baykar and TUSAS?

 

[MADDOG]

ANKA-3

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1651301143622844449

 

[dBSPL]

Yes, this illustration. As I know, Cabatli and Combat Master üstads have a complete series of these images in their archive. There was also a road map vision document from 10 years ago. I reviewed that document last month, and I realised that, surprisingly, TAI in line with this roadmap, and also had completed the targeted processes in some areas in earlier periods. So I have a strong belief that we have not appreciated this document enough in the past. However, the road map was clearly presented to us. Of course, changing conditions, the operational experience of the systems, etc. opened new perspectives with all the accumulated knowledge so that not mean there has been in a rigid frame , but the targets and the specialisation towards subsystems and capabilities are important in terms of understanding the areas.

There was a 2030 target for the combat platform concept you shared and the 'Sneaky UAV', which resembles Lockheed's RQ-3 concept in a sub-division of same diagram. Probably the technological leap may have brought this schedule forward, for these two later stage staelth UAVs.

 

[bisbis]

Yes, Congratulations Baykar and Tusaş teams.

Last week, Baykar signed a first in the history of world aviation and our two unmanned aerial vehicles performed autonomous arm flight. We are grateful to Baykar for this beautiful first activity. May our Allah bless your success.

Another feature of this first activity is that it has two firsts. One of them was the first autonomous arm flight of a jet-powered drone, and the other was the first joint flight of one jet and the other propeller drone.

Congratulations Baykar team.

 

[bisbis]

Kızılelma Ucav

Yes, Baykar accomplished a first in the world and flew two unmanned aerial vehicles autonomously in the arm.

However, there is another very important issue that should draw our attention here. That is the level of autonomy Baykar technology can bring to drones and its effect on Kızılelma Ucav's air-to-air (h2) combat capability.

This first autonomous arm flight proved to us Baykar's ability to swarm drones. Both propeller and jet powered aircraft.

Another issue is what the Kızılelma ucav can do in air to air (h2) combat. Arm flight is one of the most difficult flight profiles and conditions. If it can do this profile autonomously, I think the Kızılelma Ucav can also autonomously dogfight with radar and 360-degree awareness system.

If you ask why, the aircraft that follows the aircraft flying in front in the formation flight in the arm performs this flight by having to master its situation in a very short time compared to the aircraft in front and respond to the changes with a maneuver very quickly. This is also true in dogfighting.

If Kızılelma ucav can autonomously master its variable state in arm flight in such a short time, respond and maneuver in a very short time, it can perform effective dogfight maneuvers against its opponent aircraft in the h2 war.

Another important point that Mr. Selçuk Bayraktar stated is that for Bayraktar Tb3, they simulated the landing / take-off action of the Tcg Anadolu ship many times, in a mathematical environment, under all physical conditions, as close to reality. This is a very important ability. Thanks to this capability, every situation that the Kızılelma ucav will encounter in the air will be simulated well in advance and all kinds of preparations will be made. This preliminary preparation will increase the chance of success of the Kızılelma ucav.

 

[bisbis]

"Süper Şimşek is coming.

Tusaş Unmanned Aerial Vehicles Engineering Director Bülent Korkem gave information about the new version of the high-speed target aircraft Şimşek, which is positioned under the wings of ANKA-3.

Expressing that the resulting platform is like "Şimşek's big brother", Korkem said that they named the new product "Süper Şimşek".

Korkem stated that the Süper Şimşek will primarily be a target aircraft, followed by versions with decoy target and offensive ammunition.

Noting that they will use different types of seeker heads in the versions with ammunition, Korkem said, "Therefore, Süper Şimşek will be able to perform air-to-ground, air-to-air attack missions, to detect and suppress enemy systems on the ground, by attaching electronic warfare systems within its own capacity. In one of the latest versions, it will be able to reach as far as cruise missiles. We will also use this aircraft in a wide range. We expect a range of over 700 kilometers." used the phrases. (AA)"

yes, welcome to this unmanned aerial vehicle named "super lightning"; Identify an aircraft type name if you can find it. target aircraft, cruise missile, anti radiation ucav, sead ucav, kamikaze uav etc.

If you can find one, please find a thread in this forum.

Did you notice?, the competence and technology level of our country's defense industry has advanced so much; The permeability between the determinants of an aircraft produced now, such as mission, type, capability, has expanded greatly. In other words, you are looking at a target plane, which is not satisfied with 3, 5 different missions and is a candidate to be a cruise missile with a range of 700 km. an amazing ability.

Congratulations tusaş.

 

[Oublious]

I was looking for RCS values of ANKA-3 and did not have found for now. So we can compare it with X-47B, and the result is crazy. Much stealth then F-35, yes better then F-35 .

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