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[Baryshx]

As they say, it takes decades to build a successful company but only minutes to ruin it.

It's unfortunate that you ended a good article with this.

You can't ruin a successful company, that's Facebookist uncles and troll bullshit. It is in demand not only in Turkiye but all over the world.

 

[Heartbang]

You can't ruin a successful company

Blockbuster was very successful too.

 

[Agha Sher]

Any idea of which radar we will see on Anka 3? Hope it is Murad.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1653114122387480576

 

[Afif]

Any idea of which radar we will see on Anka 3? Hope it is Murad.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1653114122387480576

And where do you think they would fit it?

 

[Baryshx]

Blockbuster was very successful too.

You can do better

It is not the Baykar company we need to worry about. It is Tusaş, Tei, Aselsan and Roketsan. Because they are state institutions, it is very easy for politicians to intervene.

 

[Agha Sher]

And where do you think they would fit it?

True, maybe they’ll source a very small radar for it

 

[Kitra]

You can't ruin a successful company, that's Facebookist uncles and troll bullshit.

What do you think about Ericsson, Nokia and Philips? All of them were global tech leaders of their time but are now a mere shadows. Could this not happen to any of our defence companies based on their own or state decisions?

But closer to heart, didn't poor state decisions doom our defence industry early on? What prevents this from happening again when all sides in our immature political environment politicize our own defence.

 

[Ahlatshah]

Neither Baykar nor Tusaş can sell even a screw without permission of government, that is how defense companies works.

 

[Baryshx]

What do you think about Ericsson, Nokia and Philips? All of them were global tech leaders of their time but are now a mere shadows. Could this not happen to any of our defence companies based on their own or state decisions?

But closer to heart, didn't poor state decisions doom our defence industry early on? What prevents this from happening again when all sides in our immature political environment politicize our own defence.

Their governments/states did not ruin them. They could not keep up with the developing technology and the world.

Some governments may put more emphasis on the economy, health, education, etc. than on the army. These are political choices. The important thing is that this is not deliberate and does not weaken the country militarily.

After all, institutions and organizations continue their work in their own way and in harmony with the world.

 

[Anastasius]

It's unfortunate that you ended a good article with this.

You can't ruin a successful company, that's Facebookist uncles and troll bullshit. It is in demand not only in Turkiye but all over the world.

Of course you can, history is littered with the corpses of seemingly successful companies that were killed through a series of bad decisions.

 

[Ahlatshah]

Their governments/states did not ruin them. They could not keep up with the developing technology and the world.

Some governments may put more emphasis on the economy, health, education, etc. than on the army. These are political choices. The important thing is that this is not deliberate and does not weaken the country militarily.

After all, institutions and organizations continue their work in their own way and in harmony with the world.

You are right about Eriksson, Nokia etc. But company of Nuri Demirağ was deliberately ruined by the government of the time. They didnt buy ordered aircrafts and they didnt give permission to export. History tells us if a defense company clashes with government anyhow, its future becomes dark. So there is real concern about slowing down Baykar. It is something we can't afford it.

 

[Baryshx]

You are right about Eriksson, Nokia etc. But company of Nuri Demirağ was deliberately ruined by the government of the time. They didnt buy ordered aircrafts and they didnt give permission to export. History tells us if a defense company clashes with government anyhow, its future becomes dark. So there is real concern about slowing down Baykar. It is something we can't afford it.

I don't know what to say. Discussing today with 100 years ago. It's like the comfort of criticizing the Treaty of Lausanne today...

Can we go into the village institutes and the Devrim automobile if you want?

I warned you not to be like the Facebook uncles, but you never read. I wonder how old you are.

 

[Ahlatshah]

I don't know what to say. Discussing today with 100 years ago. It's like the comfort of criticizing the Treaty of Lausanne today...

Can we go into the village institutes and the Devrim automobile if you want?

I warned you not to be like the Facebook uncles, but you never read. I wonder how old you are.

I will answer that. I am 39 and you sound like my students in university who think talking about past is pointless and history can not repeat itself

 

[Lool]

I will answer that. I am 39 and you sound like my students in university who think talking about past is pointless and history can not repeat itself

Agreed
Since one of the things my dad drilled in me since I was 15 years old is that History always repeats itself unless we learn from our previous mistakes which we never do. He used to repeat that sentence hundreds of times for me on multiple occasions

Funny thing is, I never understood what it mean until I became 19 years old, lool

 

[Baryshx]

I will answer that. I am 39 and you sound like my students in university who think talking about past is pointless and history can not repeat itself

I think you should listen to your students, that's why I like the new generations, because they are more logical and positive... People like Nuri Demirağ, Vecihi Hürkuş, Kirkor Divarci, etc. are historical figures.

What is development, progress? I hate being stuck in the past. I don't like it when people repeat the same things like parrots in a vicious circle that does not contribute to development.

 

[MhhJA]

I think you should listen to your students, that's why I like the new generations, because they are more logical and positive... People like Nuri Demirağ, Vecihi Hürkuş, Kirkor Divarci, etc. are historical figures.

What is development, progress? I hate being stuck in the past, I don't like it when people repeat the same things like parrots.

I don't get why pointing out past errors shouldn't contribute to development. In fact seeing these errors and noticing them, learing from them and most importantly not repeating them is what brings you forward.

And therefore we can be positive but not naive and overlook possible dangers.

 

[Ahlatshah]

I think you should listen to your students, that's why I like the new generations, because they are more logical and positive... People like Nuri Demirağ, Vecihi Hürkuş, Kirkor Divarci, etc. are historical figures.

What is development, progress? I hate being stuck in the past. I don't like it when people repeat the same things like parrots in a vicious circle that does not contribute to development.

It would be an honor and privilege to see them surpassing me and their teachers (some of them already does) and I have no doubt they will to do so. In a sense they have to. Having said that, they must learn the history of their field of study in order to avoid the same mistakes. For all we must. There are some legitimate concerns about our defense industry because bad things happened in the past, it may very well happen in the future. But if you take this as stucking in the past and call the parrot (which is not kind at the very least) who pointing out these warnings, I will say no more and end this conversation here

 

[Ryder]

You are right about Eriksson, Nokia etc. But company of Nuri Demirağ was deliberately ruined by the government of the time. They didnt buy ordered aircrafts and they didnt give permission to export. History tells us if a defense company clashes with government anyhow, its future becomes dark. So there is real concern about slowing down Baykar. It is something we can't afford it.

Vechi Hurkus died poor too.

Ataturk took patronage of him and even funded his aircraft programs after Ataturk died successive governements cut off Hurkus.

Even in his funeral barely anybody came.

Nuri Pasha got killed in his own weapons factory. Lots of conspiracy range from the Turkish government sabotage or the Soviets doing the sabotage.

Nuri Pasha' body has never been found and his weapons factory all but gone.

Lots of tragedy and things we dont know.

 

[Tornadoss]

You are right about Eriksson, Nokia etc. But company of Nuri Demirağ was deliberately ruined by the government of the time. They didnt buy ordered aircrafts and they didnt give permission to export. History tells us if a defense company clashes with government anyhow, its future becomes dark. So there is real concern about slowing down Baykar. It is something we can't afford it.

YEah just look at what happened to the deals with Koc group after their beef with the government. RMK Marine given the construction of the Milgem then it's canceled. Otokar hardly got any tender.

 

[Agha Sher]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1653331937996464130

"Now there is a Turkey that has stood up and is a cure for humanity and the oppressed! We witnessed this in #TEKNOFEST2023 as well. I would like to express my gratitude to our beloved Nation, who are always with us. See you again in Ankara and Izmir..."

I could see this guy as the future president of Turkiye.