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[Merzifonlu]

KIZILELMA will have IRST?

This has been announced before. It's not new information.

 

[Rodeo]

This has been announced before. It's not new information.

I must've missed it.

 

[what]

Kizilelma will not be KAAN's wingman unless politics forces TAI to do so. And TAI will not be on the sidelines when they have a product in production just because some other company did it too. This is not how our industry has worked. There has always been competition within the industry. Sometimes there was too much (land vehicles) and sometimes there was not enough.

Not only is it a logical step, it's also smart to keep engineers busy and in the company. And it's really good to have the teams that worked on X in product Y now building the bigger/better version of whatever part they worked on before for the next big thing.

KE will be its own product, own category but TAI has the upper hand when it comes to KAAN. I dont know if thats to much speculation but if we eventually get 100 KAANs then TAI can expect 100-200 or so orders of the upcoming wingman. Billions worth of orders just in the domestic market. Plus for every export customers highly relevant too.

 

[Oublious]

In a interview Selcuk Bayraktar anounced that TB3 will fly short after Teknofest.

 

[Samba]

I would die to see Anka 3 fly even before tb3.

 

[boredaf]

I would die to see Anka 3 fly even before tb3.

Why?

 

[B_A]

Kizilelma will not be KAAN's wingman unless politics forces TAI to do so. And TAI will not be on the sidelines when they have a product in production just because some other company did it too. This is not how our industry has worked. There has always been competition within the industry. Sometimes there was too much (land vehicles) and sometimes there was not enough.

Not only is it a logical step, it's also smart to keep engineers busy and in the company. And it's really good to have the teams that worked on X in product Y now building the bigger/better version of whatever part they worked on before for the next big thing.

KE will be its own product, own category but TAI has the upper hand when it comes to KAAN. I dont know if thats to much speculation but if we eventually get 100 KAANs then TAI can expect 100-200 or so orders of the upcoming wingman. Billions worth of orders just in the domestic market. Plus for every export customers highly relevant too.

The best way is Baykar can be the export version and TUSAS produce much better version for our armed force

 

[Agha Sher]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1698296746227442069

Mehmet Simsek: KE export value is $10.000 per kg.

Based on his number, we can expect KE to be priced at around $60 million per aircraft. (assuming 6 tons empty weight)

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1698296746227442069

Mehmet Simsek: KE export value is $10.000 per kg.

Based on his number, we can expect KE to be priced at around $60 million per aircraft. (assuming 6 tons empty weight)

The maximum take-off weight is 8.5 tons. This raises its value to $85 million.

 

[Radko]

No-one is going to buy Kızılelma with a pricetag over 50+ million

 

[Sanchez]

Don't think we should go down that rabbit hole. That's clearly dumbing down for the audience and actual meaning is "high tech exports are better than fruits." No need to read too much into it.

 

[Agha Sher]

No-one is going to buy Kızılelma with a pricetag over 50+ million

You obviously don’t know the rich Arabs. $60 million is a bargain for them

 

[Afif]

Akinci 20-25 millions per unit and KE 35-40 millions per unit. (aircraft only)
When weapons logistics and training is included, it could go up to 40 millions per Akinci and 60 millions for KE.

Spending more than that on such platforms would be uneconomical for countries like BD.

 

[Kitra]

Anka-4 will spell the end for manned fighters. If you want to kill Hürkuş, Hürjet and even Kaan go ahead

Being technologically supperior to your enemy is the best outcome one can wish for.

However, personally i dont think Anka 4 will be superior to 5th gen aircrafts but Anka 5 or later will definitely be a strong opponent to any manned fighter. So, your prediction seem to be off with 5-10 years in my opinion.

 

[Zafer]

Being technologically supperior to your enemy is the best outcome one can wish for.

However, personally i dont think Anka 4 will be superior to 5th gen aircrafts but Anka 5 or later will definitely be a strong opponent to any manned fighter. So, your prediction seem to be off with 5-10 years in my opinion.

Right, but the US has not yet developed an unmanned fighter for some reason.

 

[Agha Sher]

Anka-3 first flight delay is due to faulty engine. Unknown whether it will repair or replaced altogether. Don’t expect a flight soon.

Source: Yusuf Akbaba

 

[Kitra]

Right, but the US has not yet developed an unmanned fighter for some reason.

And what that got to do with Turkey?

Also, i believe that you are wrong on your assumption. USA most certainly have high degree of autonomous drone control together with real-time control of their drones via Starlink.

Them being not open about this is understandable since it would kill their sale of expensive fighters and give the enemy (China) to prepare for it.

 

[I_Love_F16]

Anka-3 first flight delay is due to faulty engine. Unknown whether it will repair or replaced altogether. Don’t expect a flight soon.

Source: Yusuf Akbaba

Turkiye can build good aircrafts but we are still laking in engines unfortunately. If we had started earlier we would not be in that position. Apart from our MALE UAV’s, all our other aircrafts are using foreign engines.

 

[Agha Sher]

Turkiye can build good aircrafts but we are still laking in engines unfortunately. If we had started earlier we would not be in that position. Apart from our MALE UAV’s, all our other aircrafts are using foreign engines.

Indeed, Turkiye is going through a painful period of engine dependency. Things are changing. With the current project, Turkiye could overcome this dependency completely in the next 10 years

 

[Zafer]

And what that got to do with Turkey?

Also, i believe that you are wrong on your assumption. USA most certainly have high degree of autonomous drone control together with real-time control of their drones via Starlink.

Them being not open about this is understandable since it would kill their sale of expensive fighters and give the enemy (China) to prepare for it.

We haven't seen a built US autonomous fighter, and militarization of Starlink will bring doom to Starlink.