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[Strong AI]

@Strong AI I know. I was the first to talk about the Anka III project in this forum.

I know, i just posted those quotes, so members who missed the photos of the scale model, can see it.

 

[Boz]

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[Yasar_TR]

ANKA-III İlk Uçuşunu Başarıyla Gerçekleştirdi

28 Aralık tarihinde erken saatlerde yuvadan havalanan ANKA-III, 1 saat 10 dakika süren ilk uçuşunda, 8 bin irtifa ve 150 knot sürate çıktı. İlk inişi öncesinde, pisti pas geçme testini de gerçekleştiren ANKA-3 ilk uçuşunu başarıyla gerçekleştirdi. Peki ANKA-III programında bundan sonraki süreçte...

www.defenceturkey.com

It mentions an AI-322 engine. It may not be AI-322F, but this engine seems to be AI-322 class.

AI-322 engine is produced by Motor-Sich of Ukraine. It is a 5500lbf maximum dry thrust level turbofan.
The AI-322F version is the afterburner version of this engine developing 9260lbf thrust.
As a flying wing this plane can not achieve supersonic flight. Hence no need for the “F” version engine.
But in days to come , with a single, TF6000 it will be stealthier and will most probably develop more thrust, augmenting it’s overall performance.
With dual TF6000 engines it can be bigger have more weapons and/or fuel on board and can go longer.

 

[Oublious]

Next Teknofest KE and Anka-3 flying side by side,,,,

 

[GoatsMilk]

how many of these things would the Turkish army look to acquire?

 

[boredaf]

how many of these things would the Turkish army look to acquire?

Any answer you'll get here will be a guesstimate at best mate. Mine is, at least several dozen over time, but, the real power/usefulness of this drone cannot be shown until we are at war with a peer-level enemy. But I don't expect production numbers to be high, not until TF-6000 is ready at least.

 

[Bogeyman]

 

[Strong AI]

From WELT:

The next milestone in Turkey's self-sufficiency plan

A few years ago, President Erdoğan ordered Turkey to arm itself. The programme is at least technologically successful, as the current fighter jet premiere shows. There are therefore many indications that the West's calculations are not working.

Recep Tayyip Erdoğan initiated a change in strategy shortly after taking office as President of the Republic of Turkey in 2014: The state should no longer be dependent on arms imports from other countries and their corporations for its armaments and instead build up an independent military industry.

In the meantime, successes are becoming apparent. According to reports on Platform X, the Anka 3 unmanned stealth fighter jet has just completed its maiden flight. The giant combat drone is a building block in the fleet of new Turkish military aircraft models that are now causing a stir worldwide.

The list of new models is long and varied. It includes, for example, the drone models from the private company Baykar, whose delivery to Ukraine to destroy Russian tanks made headlines. Over 500 units of the TB2 model have already been built. In October, a model with folding wings (TB3) flew for the first time, which is also to be produced in Saudi Arabia in the future.

Unlike the German government, Erdogan has no fear of contact with Riyadh when it comes to military products. A year ago, the large Kizilelma jet drone took off from Baykar for the first time. In future, it is to be stationed on the Turkish aircraft and drone carrier TCG Anadolu, which entered service in spring. The company belongs to the family of Selcuk Bayraktar, the son-in-law of Turkish President Erdogan.

A foretaste of the other new products was provided at the beginning of May - skilfully timed just before the presidential elections in Turkey - by a model presentation at the large state aviation group Turkish Aerospace. The unmanned Anka 3 fighter jet, which has now completed its maiden flight, was shown on a large screen.

The model can be used for reconnaissance purposes, electronic warfare or combat missions - for example against targets in the air, such as enemy helicopters, or on the ground. With a total weight of 6.5 tonnes, the weapon payload is estimated at 1.2 tonnes, with a maximum speed of 0.7 Mach and a flight time of up to ten hours.

At the centre of the presentation was what is currently probably Turkey's largest armaments project: the development of the first self-developed manned stealth fighter jet. At the public premiere of the jet, Erdogan symbolically took a brief seat in the cockpit himself and announced the name of the model: Kaan. This can be translated as ruler, commander or emperor. The Kaan model will one day replace older US F-16 models in the fleet.

Strategy pays off

The original plan was for both the unmanned Anka 3 fighter jet and the manned Kaan fighter jet to take off for their maiden flight by the end of the year. However, it has recently emerged that this double première is unlikely to be realised. In visualisations of the future capabilities of the Turkish aviation industry, the Kaan fighter jet, accompanied by combat drones such as the Anka 3 or Kizilelma, has been described in glowing terms as taking off on missions.

For Turkey's military planners, the self-sufficiency strategy in the defence sector is paying off. It is a response to the numerous sanctions imposed on the country by the West in recent years. Germany did not supply any more Leopard tanks for the fight against the Kurds. The USA stopped Turkey from supplying components for the US F-35 fighter jet because Erdogan purchased air defence missiles from Russian President Vladimir Putin. However, the West's calculation of slowing down Turkey's armaments is clearly not working.

When analysts from the Swedish peace research institute Sipri recently published the list of the world's top 100 defence companies, Turkish companies were among the big winners - in contrast to US companies, which saw a drop in turnover. The turnover of the four Turkish companies in the ranking rose by a massive 22 per cent to 5.5 billion dollars in 2022. The turnover of drone manufacturer Baykar alone rose by 94 per cent, and the company landed in 76th place on the list for the first time.

Arms companies are not only producing for their own armaments, but increasingly also for export customers. Drones, for example, are one of the country's top arms exports. Saudi Arabia has reportedly agreed a three-billion-dollar drone deal with Baykar. This year, Turkey's arms exports are expected to climb to a further six billion dollars.

However, it will be some time before Turkey achieves complete independence in military aviation. There is obviously still a need for development in jet propulsion systems. The construction of propeller drives for smaller drones is comparatively simple, but turbine drives for military jets are more challenging.

For example, it is unclear who the supplier of the jet engine for the Anka 3 combat drone is. The first prototypes of the manned Kaan fighter jet will initially be fitted with US turbines (F110) from General Electric. Turkey's own engine is to be available for the fighter jet by 2028. The Turkish Kaan fighter jet will presumably be on display at the world's largest air show in Paris next year.

EDIT: (Paywall)

Tarnkappen-Kampfjet Anka 3: Der nächste Meilenstein im türkischen Autarkie-Plan - WELT

Präsident Erdoğan hat der Türkei vor einigen Jahren eine eigenständige Aufrüstung verordnet. Das Programm ist zumindest technologisch erfolgreich, wie auch die aktuelle Kampfjet-Premiere zeigt. Vieles deutet deshalb darauf hin, dass das Kalkül des Westens nicht aufgeht.

www.welt.de

 

[what]

@Strong AI please add the link / source

 

[Oublious]

nice analyze and summary.

Turkey’s ANKA-3 Flying Wing Unmanned Combat Air Vehicle Flies

Turkey’s flying wing drone took to the air today in the latest milestone for the country’s burgeoning defense aerospace industry.

www.thedrive.com

 

[Strong AI]

@Strong AI please add the link / source

I did not want to add the link, because it is behind a paywall. But here you go, link added.

 

[GoatsMilk]

For Turkey's military planners, the self-sufficiency strategy in the defence sector is paying off. It is a response to the numerous sanctions imposed on the country by the West in recent years. Germany did not supply any more Leopard tanks for the fight against the Kurds. The USA stopped Turkey from supplying components for the US F-35 fighter jet because Erdogan purchased air defence missiles from Russian President Vladimir Putin. However, the West's calculation of slowing down Turkey's armaments is clearly not working.

Anyone else get sick and tired of western propaganda constantly referring to the PKK simply as a fight or war on Kurds? Basically delegitimising Turkey, insinuating some kind of ethnic genocide is taking place, while legitimising their acts of terrorism?

same media that justifies the genocide in Gaza taking place.

 

[zio]

Tubitak and aselsan can put passive radar emitting device on Anka 3,so it would lead shut the radars off,you can not be sure Anka 3 iis over or not .The main duty of F35 is sead dead mission,Anka 3 will fill the gap on this area

 

[Zafer]

I did not want to add the link, because it is behind a paywall. But here you go, link added.

I was thinking you wrote it up, good thing you added a link.

 

[Merzifonlu]

I once said about Akıncı, "We will benefit greatly from the meat and feathers of this bird." I said so, and so it happened. Akıncı even became a test plane for radar, what else can you ask for? I expect Akıncı to become the "flying Gökhan launcher" within 1-2 years. Launching Siper HSS missiles from the ground is of course a capability. But firing the Siper HSS missile or Gökhan missile from 8 km above with an initial speed of 750 km is a completely different thing. This application can be considered a revolution in air combat!

Now I say the same for Anka-3, we will benefit a lot from the flesh and feathers of this bird, soo much. In due time, the twin-engine Anka-3 will take over Akıncı's flying "Siper HSS or Gökhen launcher" function. The enemy will not be able to detect the location of the fired Siper missile or Gökhan missile until it is too late. Akıncı will still have this opportunity, because Akıncı is not stealth. Anka-3, on the other hand, will not give the enemy that chance of early detection. Anka-3 will be the "Sniper of air wars".

 

[Aqerdf]

Reddit and X is full of burned US/EU/etc. fanboys. Amount of "no lololo" type of coping...

Even Wire. There's only 4 country can handle big-data drone-ing, and one of them is us, and they still "yes it flys nice job but can you handle after that ????"

Yes, thank you, we didn't think after it, we only thought, design/build/flight aspects. Now we need to think again. We woke up one day we said: "I wanna build a stealth jet drone !!!!" Then we started to build. It's a hobby project after all, completely not related with TSK and our Defence Industry.

Pffffff....

 

[Ryder]

My new profile picture

 

[Ryder]

Turkish Stingray.

I love Stingrays.

 

[MeACuLpA]

Tubitak and aselsan can put passive radar emitting device on Anka 3,so it would lead shut the radars off,you can not be sure Anka 3 iis over or not .The main duty of F35 is sead dead mission,Anka 3 will fill the gap on this area

if it is passive, that means it does NOT emit anything. passive radars are calculating location by triangulating radio waves from 'other emitting' sources like TV or GSM

 

[Fatman17]

Türkiye's new stealth drone performs maiden flight

Türkiye's first flying-wing, deep-strike unmanned aerial vehicle has successfully performed its maiden flight, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan...

www.dailysabah.com