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[Sanchez]

Akıncı number 112

Akıncı number 117.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1975621824898867286

 

[Quasar]

117Akıncı + TB2s+ TB3s + KIZILELMA ( ANKAs, AKSUNGUR), I wonder where we keep them and how they are distributed? it seems that BAYKAR facilities become unoffical part of our Air force structure since all these drones requires airfields, runways, hangars, thec and maintenace crews, operators.........

I think not only the numbers but the required infrastructure and command structure should be an interesting question???

 

[Agha Sher]

117Akıncı + TB2s+ TB3s + KIZILELMA ( ANKAs, AKSUNGUR), I wonder where we keep them and how they are distributed? it seems that BAYKAR facilities become unoffical part of our Air force structure since all these drones requires airfields, runways, hangars, thec and maintenace crews, operators.........

I think not only the numbers but the required infrastructure and command structure should be an interesting question???

I would assume the majority has been exported.

 

[mehmed beg]

117Akıncı + TB2s+ TB3s + KIZILELMA ( ANKAs, AKSUNGUR), I wonder where we keep them and how they are distributed? it seems that BAYKAR facilities become unoffical part of our Air force structure since all these drones requires airfields, runways, hangars, thec and maintenace crews, operators.........

I think not only the numbers but the required infrastructure and command structure should be an interesting question???

I presume, some of those are the reserves ?

 

[Yasar_TR]

RSF shoots down Sudan’s third Akinci drone

In the ongoing civil war that has ravaged Sudan since April 2023, the Rapid Support Forces (RSF) have achieved another milestone in their efforts to contest the Sudanese Armed Forces’ (SAF) d…

www.military.africa

If you sell these drones to countries that don’t have a modern airforce and they try to utilise them like modern attack fighters, this is what you get. Even some rebels now have alr defence missiles. Also countries like China can easily supply the AD missiles to these rebels as they would love to see the name of Bayraktar tarnished.

Third Akinci brought down in that area now. We shouldn’t sell these to any “Tom, Dick and Harry”. We should be choosier in supplying these drones. Also there should be specific guidelines about the use of these with regards to where and how.

 

[Quasar]

RSF shoots down Sudan’s third Akinci drone

In the ongoing civil war that has ravaged Sudan since April 2023, the Rapid Support Forces (RSF) have achieved another milestone in their efforts to contest the Sudanese Armed Forces’ (SAF) d…

www.military.africa

If you sell these drones to countries that don’t have a modern airforce and they try to utilise them like modern attack fighters, this is what you get. Even some rebels now have alr defence missiles. Also countries like China can easily supply the AD missiles to these rebels as they would love to see the name of Bayraktar tarnished.

Third Akinci brought down in that area now. We shouldn’t sell these to any “Tom, Dick and Harry”. We should be choosier in supplying these drones. Also there should be specific guidelines about the use of these with regards to where and how.

unfortunatly frankly speaking “Tom, Dick and Harry” are our main customers, we may try to provide them proper traning, supervision and full package with affordable prices we may also learn valuable lessons and adopt, I know it is easier said than done.... but the ball is in our court... unfortunaty as we know even PKK rats managed to shot down our drone with İranian 358

 

[Ripley]

Yaşar Abi, Quasar it’s hard to dismiss your well defined, clear point but it’s also worth remembering that Turkey‘s got herself into a geopolitical game in the region thru bi-lateral relationships with almost every nation on the map. In this particular case, it’s Sudanese Armed Forces is backed up by Turkey.
So, it’s more of an acceptable loss in return of an expected gain for Turkey rather than an uncalculated export craze for any buyer readily available out there to cough up cash.

Also, any serious future buyer with adequate to well structured military build up would have known enough to weight, measure and distinguish between the short comings of the product and user.

 

[AlperTunga]

117Akıncı + TB2s+ TB3s + KIZILELMA ( ANKAs, AKSUNGUR), I wonder where we keep them and how they are distributed? it seems that BAYKAR facilities become unoffical part of our Air force structure since all these drones requires airfields, runways, hangars, thec and maintenace crews, operators.........

I think not only the numbers but the required infrastructure and command structure should be an interesting question???

Well, this is their majestatic game plan against the air force combo of Greece and Israel. As also backed by ex-colonel morons with a stick at hand on TV, 200 TB2 and 50 Akinci in our inventory will ensure that we prevail!

But seriously, to those of you defending these rubbish tin cans, pls wake up. we need serious killer machines in a war we dont need big, slow birds waiting to be shut down. Those are too expensive for the little utility they provide. Ukraine drones and Israeli Harpy drones much more useful.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Well, this is their majestatic game plan against the air force combo of Greece and Israel. As also backed by ex-colonel morons with a stick at hand on TV, 200 TB2 and 50 Akinci in our inventory will ensure that we prevail!

But seriously, to those of you defending these rubbish tin cans, pls wake up. we need serious killer machines in a war we dont need big, slow birds waiting to be shut down. Those are too expensive for the little utility they provide. Ukraine drones and Israeli Harpy drones much more useful.

Agree, Türkiye is focusing way to much on MALE drones, those drones are kinda dead if they don't have stand off munition. Everyone and their mother can shoot them down. And that goes to ALL MALE drones on the planet, doesn't matter who produces it.

 

[begturan]

Agree, Türkiye is focusing way to much on MALE drones, those drones are kinda dead if they don't have stand off munition. Everyone and their mother can shoot them down. And that goes to ALL MALE drones on the planet, doesn't matter who produces it.

In addition to the stand-off ammunition, the fact that the Akıncıs can fire air-to-air missiles with AESA radar is, in my opinion, a huge force multiplier in the field, and with a 1-day endurance! From now on, I also agree with investing in kamikaze UAVs like Kargı.

 

[Strong AI]

Are these concepts for bigger UCAVs?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1975877545892425747

 

[Ripley]

Are these concepts for bigger UCAVs?

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1975877545892425747

By the Looks of it, more like a concept 1/1 size model of a mini ucav.
The pivotal motors (up and forward movement) and being more than one makes me think it’s a swarm concept ucav.
But then again, I’m not a great source to quote.

 

[Iskander]

Well, this is their majestatic game plan against the air force combo of Greece and Israel. As also backed by ex-colonel morons with a stick at hand on TV, 200 TB2 and 50 Akinci in our inventory will ensure that we prevail!

But seriously, to those of you defending these rubbish tin cans, pls wake up. we need serious killer machines in a war we dont need big, slow birds waiting to be shut down. Those are too expensive for the little utility they provide. Ukraine drones and Israeli Harpy drones much more useful.

Sorry, I disagree with your opinion. These seemingly fragile devices have already dramatically changed the situation in several conflicts.
Moreover, altitude alone gives a huge advantage to those who own even these "tin-bottom" drones. Imagine, 65-ton tanks are often completely helpless under the blows of their "funny bombs" MAM-L...
These UAVs are capable of launching missiles up to 250 km (!). And that's already very serious.

You know, in 2008, during the war with Georgia, the Russians, lacking UAVs, sent this 42-meter, 120-ton behemoth on reconnaissance—a strategic supersonic missile carrier costing $100 million.

The Georgians shot it down. The crew was captured.
However, after this disgrace, the Russians never indulged in such stupidity again. Obviously, UAVs have their advantages, and manned ones have theirs.

 

[AlperTunga]

I dont think we need 200 TB2 for reconnaissance etc. It is insane we paid 1 billion for them. We wont be fighting Armenia the next time. Our next adversaries will be much more capable. We need serious stuff. Both the son-in-law and Haluk Görgün need to wake up from their dreams. Still no progress in our fighter jet procurement. The last thing I heard was that those undecided, visionless officials are begging now Qatar to buy their EFs. Amazing. But we are lucky that our enemies are afraid of our shadow. At least we have some positive legacy from the Ottomans!

 

[Oublious]

 

[Strong AI]

I think this is the reason why they don't drop bombs from IWBs first.

Bomb Drops Gone Wrong!

What goes down sometimes comes back up.

www.military.com

 

[Tornadoss]

I think this is the reason why the don't drop bombs from IWBs first.

Bomb Drops Gone Wrong!

What goes down sometimes comes back up.

www.military.com

Anka-3 already did, I don't see a reason why Kizilelma to not do that. I guess by time but it's a slow pace for an UAV which was supposed to be in serial production in 2024.

 

[boredaf]

Anka-3 already did, I don't see a reason why Kizilelma to not do that. I guess by time but it's a slow pace for an UAV which was supposed to be in serial production in 2024.

Anka-3 also dropped from under its wings first mate.

 

[Pokemonte13]

It’s normal alright to first try it under the wings with time it will get better it will take years until Kizilelma is combat ready same with anka

 

[Yasar_TR]

It’s normal alright to first try it under the wings with time it will get better it will take years until Kizilelma is combat ready same with anka

Years is very open ended. 2 to 9 years qualify the statement you’ve made.

If they allocate the right resources, Anka3 will definitely be ready in under 3 years, if not quicker. The only parameter that will hold it back is the TF6000.

KE should follow Anka3 once the TF10000 is ready.

So in reality the ball is in TEI’s court. The quicker they provide the engines the quicker these planes can be operational.

Although these are the first trials to see if the planes can perform as envisaged by the designers, and these firings are governed by the Circular Error Probable laws; Tolun hitting the bulls eye in it’s first Anka3 IWB firing is very heartening. Well done to all Tusas engineers!