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Akıncı number 112
Akıncı number 117.

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117Akıncı + TB2s+ TB3s + KIZILELMA ( ANKAs, AKSUNGUR), I wonder where we keep them and how they are distributed? it seems that BAYKAR facilities become unoffical part of our Air force structure since all these drones requires airfields, runways, hangars, thec and maintenace crews, operators.........

I think not only the numbers but the required infrastructure and command structure should be an interesting question???
 
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117Akıncı + TB2s+ TB3s + KIZILELMA ( ANKAs, AKSUNGUR), I wonder where we keep them and how they are distributed? it seems that BAYKAR facilities become unoffical part of our Air force structure since all these drones requires airfields, runways, hangars, thec and maintenace crews, operators.........

I think not only the numbers but the required infrastructure and command structure should be an interesting question???
I would assume the majority has been exported.
 

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117Akıncı + TB2s+ TB3s + KIZILELMA ( ANKAs, AKSUNGUR), I wonder where we keep them and how they are distributed? it seems that BAYKAR facilities become unoffical part of our Air force structure since all these drones requires airfields, runways, hangars, thec and maintenace crews, operators.........

I think not only the numbers but the required infrastructure and command structure should be an interesting question???
I presume, some of those are the reserves ?
 

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If you sell these drones to countries that don’t have a modern airforce and they try to utilise them like modern attack fighters, this is what you get. Even some rebels now have alr defence missiles. Also countries like China can easily supply the AD missiles to these rebels as they would love to see the name of Bayraktar tarnished.

Third Akinci brought down in that area now. We shouldn’t sell these to any “Tom, Dick and Harry”. We should be choosier in supplying these drones. Also there should be specific guidelines about the use of these with regards to where and how.
 

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If you sell these drones to countries that don’t have a modern airforce and they try to utilise them like modern attack fighters, this is what you get. Even some rebels now have alr defence missiles. Also countries like China can easily supply the AD missiles to these rebels as they would love to see the name of Bayraktar tarnished.

Third Akinci brought down in that area now. We shouldn’t sell these to any “Tom, Dick and Harry”. We should be choosier in supplying these drones. Also there should be specific guidelines about the use of these with regards to where and how.


unfortunatly frankly speaking “Tom, Dick and Harry” are our main customers, we may try to provide them proper traning, supervision and full package with affordable prices we may also learn valuable lessons and adopt, I know it is easier said than done.... but the ball is in our court... unfortunaty as we know even PKK rats managed to shot down our drone with İranian 358
 
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Yaşar Abi, Quasar it’s hard to dismiss your well defined, clear point but it’s also worth remembering that Turkey‘s got herself into a geopolitical game in the region thru bi-lateral relationships with almost every nation on the map. In this particular case, it’s Sudanese Armed Forces is backed up by Turkey.
So, it’s more of an acceptable loss in return of an expected gain for Turkey rather than an uncalculated export craze for any buyer readily available out there to cough up cash.

Also, any serious future buyer with adequate to well structured military build up would have known enough to weight, measure and distinguish between the short comings of the product and user.
 

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117Akıncı + TB2s+ TB3s + KIZILELMA ( ANKAs, AKSUNGUR), I wonder where we keep them and how they are distributed? it seems that BAYKAR facilities become unoffical part of our Air force structure since all these drones requires airfields, runways, hangars, thec and maintenace crews, operators.........

I think not only the numbers but the required infrastructure and command structure should be an interesting question???
Well, this is their majestatic game plan against the air force combo of Greece and Israel. As also backed by ex-colonel morons with a stick at hand on TV, 200 TB2 and 50 Akinci in our inventory will ensure that we prevail!

But seriously, to those of you defending these rubbish tin cans, pls wake up. we need serious killer machines in a war we dont need big, slow birds waiting to be shut down. Those are too expensive for the little utility they provide. Ukraine drones and Israeli Harpy drones much more useful.
 

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Well, this is their majestatic game plan against the air force combo of Greece and Israel. As also backed by ex-colonel morons with a stick at hand on TV, 200 TB2 and 50 Akinci in our inventory will ensure that we prevail!

But seriously, to those of you defending these rubbish tin cans, pls wake up. we need serious killer machines in a war we dont need big, slow birds waiting to be shut down. Those are too expensive for the little utility they provide. Ukraine drones and Israeli Harpy drones much more useful.
Agree, Türkiye is focusing way to much on MALE drones, those drones are kinda dead if they don't have stand off munition. Everyone and their mother can shoot them down. And that goes to ALL MALE drones on the planet, doesn't matter who produces it.
 

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Agree, Türkiye is focusing way to much on MALE drones, those drones are kinda dead if they don't have stand off munition. Everyone and their mother can shoot them down. And that goes to ALL MALE drones on the planet, doesn't matter who produces it.
In addition to the stand-off ammunition, the fact that the Akıncıs can fire air-to-air missiles with AESA radar is, in my opinion, a huge force multiplier in the field, and with a 1-day endurance! From now on, I also agree with investing in kamikaze UAVs like Kargı.
 

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Well, this is their majestatic game plan against the air force combo of Greece and Israel. As also backed by ex-colonel morons with a stick at hand on TV, 200 TB2 and 50 Akinci in our inventory will ensure that we prevail!

But seriously, to those of you defending these rubbish tin cans, pls wake up. we need serious killer machines in a war we dont need big, slow birds waiting to be shut down. Those are too expensive for the little utility they provide. Ukraine drones and Israeli Harpy drones much more useful.
Sorry, I disagree with your opinion. These seemingly fragile devices have already dramatically changed the situation in several conflicts.
Moreover, altitude alone gives a huge advantage to those who own even these "tin-bottom" drones. Imagine, 65-ton tanks are often completely helpless under the blows of their "funny bombs" MAM-L...
These UAVs are capable of launching missiles up to 250 km (!). And that's already very serious.

You know, in 2008, during the war with Georgia, the Russians, lacking UAVs, sent this 42-meter, 120-ton behemoth on reconnaissance—a strategic supersonic missile carrier costing $100 million.

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The Georgians shot it down. The crew was captured.
However, after this disgrace, the Russians never indulged in such stupidity again. Obviously, UAVs have their advantages, and manned ones have theirs.
 

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