TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

[uçuyorum]

Currently, Baykar is considering its options on twin engine Kızılelma. Baykar might shelve twin engine Kızılelma in favor of a single 20000 lbf class( ~12000lbf dry, ~20000lbf wet thrust) engine. That is why they are willing to develop a 20000 lbs engine. Baykar is aiming for 10000-12000kg MTOW and supercruise capability and more than double the current payload capacity.

I know TF10000 is going to be expensive but new engine development is more expensive. We should focus on the engine we have at hand and build more stuff on top of it instead.

 

[Zafer]

Twin engine is twice the maintenance. A powerful single engine usually gives more power for the same weight. It also opens the doors for a larger twin engine plane. Things can happen over time, new engines come out three years apart. So there is time for each engine to claim its own market both at home and abroad. We need more independent engine makers. TEI can go into power generation and marine turbines as well as possibly high bypass engines leaving a gap behind.

 

[UkroTurk]

Have A2A missiles been deployed on Kızılelma? I've never seen yet. KE with AESA radar İnteresting new platform, interesting new doctrine.Looking forward to see it's future role .

 

[Tornadoss]

Have A2A missiles been deployed on Kızılelma? I've never seen yet. KE with AESA radar İnteresting new platform, interesting new doctrine.Looking forward to see it's future role .

I think none of the UCAVs fired any AA missile. Neither Akinci nor Kizilelma. I was waiting for Sungur integration to TB-2 but it didn't happen.

 

[mTT]

ANTIDOT 2-U/EA Electronic Attack Pod

ANTIDOT 2-U/ES Electronic Support Pod

 

[boredaf]

STM unveiled its new VTOL UAV capable of carrying smart munitions

STM, akıllı mühimmat taşıyabilen yeni VTOL İHA’sını tanıttı

Türk savunma sanayi firması STM, keşif-gözetleme görevleri ile taarruz yeteneklerini bir araya getiren yeni sabit kanatlı VTOL (dikey kalkış ve

www.savunmatr.com

"STM has introduced its new fixed-wing vertical take-off and landing (VTOL) unmanned aerial vehicle; with a two-hour flight time and a 30 km range, the UAV offers reconnaissance and surveillance missions as well as attack capabilities with smart munitions such as TUNGA and KARGU. The new UAV has a two-hour endurance, a 30-kilometer range, and a 10-kilogram payload. In addition to land-based missions, the platform can also launch from naval platforms.

The system, notable for its offensive capabilities, can carry two TUNGA smart munitions developed by STM or the KARGU FPV kamikaze UAV. It can also be equipped with four 81mm mortar rounds.

The TUNGA ammunition was unveiled alongside a VTOL UAV at the IDEF 2025 trade fair. The free-fall ammunition, featuring an AI-supported optical seeker, can hit targets up to 200 meters away when released from an altitude of 800 meters. Compared to conventional mortar ammunition, it offers a higher accuracy rate, particularly against moving targets."

Now, 10 kg is not a bad number for a vtol, and opens up interesting possibilities, imo, if it can be implemented. For example, can it also carry 6 Metes? Or, how much does Karaok weigh by itself and can it be fired from this? What about M72s our army loves, can we modify it so that it can carry two M72s instead?

 

[Ripley]

For those who, just like me, don’t know what EHDEN is, it is the acronym for Elektronik Harp Denemeleri. It is Electronic Warfare Trials

 

[Sanchez]

Kızılelma with Luneburg lenses for the first time?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1982148146055496017

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Guys, how are we doing with regards to suicide drones, be it FPV or bigger models? When I think what kind of drones we have in this , then only the Kargu is coming to my mind.

Not a great sign tbh, where are our "Geran" like drones???

 

[Ripley]

Guys, how are we doing with regards to suicide drones, be it FPV or bigger models? When I think what kind of drones we have in this , then only the Kargu is coming to my mind.

Not a great sign tbh, where are our "Geran" like drones???

And Alpagu and Alpagut as loitering munitions comes to my mind right away cause seen some news about both recently on X.
FPVs, somehow I’m really not worried about that. I see some designs by Turkish civilian firms at defense fairs, exhibits. If anything, what I observe is there are too many upstart firms rushing to fill the void of Turkish FPVs. My two cents.

 

[mTT]

Guys, how are we doing with regards to suicide drones, be it FPV or bigger models? When I think what kind of drones we have in this , then only the Kargu is coming to my mind.

Not a great sign tbh, where are our "Geran" like drones???

Baykar(Skydagger Drones) FPV drones ?

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Ok, seems like we have FPVs which is no surprise but like I said, where is our Geran/Shahed like drone?

I think they do a good job in the Ukraine Russia war. I'm not a big "fan" of the MALE drones in a peer to peer war scenario.

Those kind of drones are easy to shoot down.

 

[boredaf]

Ok, seems like we have FPVs which is no surprise but like I said, where is our Geran/Shahed like drone?

I think they do a good job in the Ukraine Russia war. I'm not a big "fan" of the MALE drones in a peer to peer war scenario.

Those kind of drones are easy to shoot down.

I mean, we'd use MALE and HALE drones in different ways than we are now if we were in a war. Ukraine has been using TB2s for recon and we would se TB2 and Anka like that as well, and Ukraine hit a Russian boat or two some time last summer as well. Akıncı and Aksungur could be used with stand off munitions, the way Russia uses their planes. Çakır and UAV-230, for example, both have 150+ km range, they can (possibly) be fired from under our own anti-air umbrella against targets. Oh, TB2 and Anka can use Roketsan's new Eren as well, which has 100 km range.

And for kamikaze drones, MKE just revealed this one:

350 km range with 25 kg warhead, uses 2 domestic engines. And I'm pretty sure at least 1 company was making something similar to Geran, I think they called it Azap?

 

[Iskander]

Guys, how are we doing with regards to suicide drones, be it FPV or bigger models? When I think what kind of drones we have in this , then only the Kargu is coming to my mind.

Not a great sign tbh, where are our "Geran" like drones???

 

[Pokemonte13]

- Kermankes 1/2 got new eots
- Kermankes 2 air launched(finaly) + some changes

 

[boredaf]

- Kermankes 1/2 got new eots
- Kermankes 2 air launched(finaly) + some changes

Not just launched from Akıncı but also used to "hit" an aerial target, nice. I hope we'll see them on TB2 as well, it'll be disappointing if they cannot be used with it as they are both long range and lightweight.

 

[Huelague]

I wish Baykar would work on TB-4.

 

[Oublious]

I wish Baykar would work on TB-4.

Maybe they are working on it?