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''drone>sat>controls>human>control>sat>drone''

I guess we should not just focus on signal delays but also the fact that KIZILELMA is a fast and maneuvering object. Therefore, not just delay but satcom signal interruptions is almost inevitable.... i.e there can/will be possibly delayed intervals of communication not a constant one.

Human role is confined to pre authorizations and updating mission parameters not a constant control... Rest will be/ should be done by KIZILELMA autonomously.

in the case of manned unmanned teaming it may potenially require more data exchange
 
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''drone>sat>controls>human>control>sat>drone''

I guess we should not just focus on signal delays but also the fact that KIZILELMA is a fast and maneuvering object. Therefore, not just delay but satcom signal interruptions is almost inevitable.... i.e there can/will be possibly delayed intervals of communication not a constant one.

Human role is confined to pre authorizations and updating mission parameters not a constant control... Rest will be/ should be done by KIZILELMA autonomously.

in the case of manned unmanned teaming it may potenially require more data exchange
We should also keep in mind that information doesn't just bounce off the relay points. So it is;
drone - data processing - encryption - sat - data processing - ground - decryption - data processing & visualization - operator - interface and ditto to drone.
This is as whole more than 'just few seconds' of delay. Not a big deal for BVR missions with mission data sets, imo.
 

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We should also keep in mind that information doesn't just bounce off the relay points. So it is;
drone - data processing - encryption - sat - data processing - ground - decryption - data processing & visualization - operator - interface and ditto to drone.
This is as whole more than 'just few seconds' of delay. Not a big deal for BVR missions with mission data sets, imo.
Line of sight should be more feasible
 

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Line of sight should be more feasible
in the case of manned unmanned teaming as you stated data links operates within the line-of-sight....therefore, in fact there is no fixed value for the range of data link.... Altitude, Terrain and Atmosphere are also effecting factors.

More importantly, if KIZILELMA and ANKA 3.... KAAN are low observable and we want to focus on it further our data link should evolve accordingly as well i.e as a part of low observablty concept we may need to use low probability of intercept (LPI) datalinks eventually.

as we all know, funy thing is until recently F35 and F 22 could not share data with each other but only with their kinds. İt was a huge handicap.

Therefore, commonality and applicability of (LPI) datalinks to your assets is vital as well.

perfect is the enemy of good... may be I have very high expectations
 
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Please, I want a dual engine version with 2x AI 322F or 2x TF 10000. It must be able to keep up with TAI KAAN and Eurofighter/F-16 Özgür II in a joint battle against the enemy.
 

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initial demand can be satisfied with TF 10000.

BAYKAR can provide budget to TEI and sign a contract to develop a new engine for future models of KIZILELMA (which can be used in other platforms and which can also appeal to international interest as well) and even may get some work share in engine development and production insted of working with Ukrainians to establish an infrastruce for engine production.....

or we can chiose to believe that TF 6000 TF 10000 and TF 35000 are decided faith for us by God and We Turks will not develop another Turbo fan engine till the judgment day since they are heavly perfect for all our future needs and all future platforms till the end of time.
 
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If this even manages to acquire and shoot down a helicopter or crop duster, I will start making a call for SÜPER ŞİMŞEK with a pair of SUNGUR missiles
 

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